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Posted by: Stefany Post Reply
09/30/2013, 09:17:46

It was a lovely day and really interesting to see how beads are regarded in another European centre (different from UK) where it didnt feel so extremely competitive- I went just for a day- the weather was really comfortable and was it 14 or 15 bead enthusiasts all sat down for a lunch "al fresco" together- there were even a good number of men not just passive partners but collectors and connoisseurs - although Floor must have been the youngest among us.
I didnt get everyone's names but hope some of the newer people will dare to appear here and tell their stories-
For me the fair was also a good warm-up on beads made in Indonesia as there were "Bead Brothers" and some other importers- i now have a much better idea what to look for when i go to Kuching for the BIBCO conference in 2 weeks time.
Meanwhile another reminder about the Bead Society of Great Britain bead fair next Sunday and i hope Floor wont mind me announcing that she decided to get a one-day return ticket so as not to miss it!
i had just enough time to take a hurried shot with my phone in the Allard Pierson Museum of the case with display from the Van der Sleen bead study collection -(unfortunately you cant read the labels)
Thanks to Floor!

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You are very welcome!
Re: many thanks Floor for organising a very jolly meeting -- Stefany Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Floorkasp Post Reply
09/30/2013, 09:28:47

It was a lovely day, and great finally meeting you, Stefany.
And I will see you again, next week, on your homeground in London.
Feels incredibly decadent, flying over for just one day, but looking forward to it.
I think I have pictures of the notecards of the Van der Sleen collection somewhere, in case you would like them.

About gender: I found that in the Netherlands and in the US, beadcollecting is something done by both men and women. Is it in the UK mostly a 'womens'' thing?



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Images of Van der Sleen collection
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
09/30/2013, 09:36:07

Floor, are there any reference materials available with pictures and descriptions of this collection? I'm sure many people would be interested in this.



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yes and no...
Re: Images of Van der Sleen collection -- Rosanna Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: floorkasp Post Reply
09/30/2013, 11:20:27

There is the book that Van der Sleen wrote himself, called 'A handbook on beads'. It is a small book with both back and white photographs and drawings of beads he collected. The book was written in 1973.

There is some great information in there, but also quite a bit of wring information. I do not know of any recent catalogue of the collection. On the museum website they state that there is a catalogue of the beads, but I can not find any further record of it.



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I sent an email to the museum - maybe we'll hear something that way
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
09/30/2013, 16:07:48



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I heard back from the museum
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
10/01/2013, 08:28:10

They can provide a photocopy of a catalog, but it's in Dutch.



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Thank you for showing more images of the day, Stefany!
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
10/02/2013, 18:52:58



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your pictures, van der Sleen cards
Re: many thanks Floor for organising a very jolly meeting -- Stefany Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: hans06 Post Reply
10/03/2013, 06:23:58

Hi Stefany,
it was nice meeting you at the lunch

Here are some notes from van der Sleen with the cards displayed in the Allard Pierson museum in Amsterdam on your picture.

Top row from left to right
are cards 33-21-17-16-37-81-2-102

33 Persia, Amlash

21 India, Kausambi

17 Egypt and Coptic beads

16 Egypt, Faience and Glass beads

37 Persia, Amlash and Teheran

81 The Netherlands, Wijk bij Duurstede. Roman Beads

2 Zanzibar, Mkokotoni. Surface finds

102 Venice. Modern fabrication.

Bottom row from left to right
are cards 71-68-32-66-44-43-57-58

71 The Netherlands, Amsterdam. Boerenwetering

68 The Netherlands, Amsterdam. Boerenwetering
Remark of van der Sleen: especially this kind of beads is found in Indian graves in North America and Canada

32 Indonesia, Flores. Beads made in Amsterdam

66 Beads from "kralentuinen" in Broek in Waterland

44 South Africa, Bechanaland

43 South Africa, Mafeking

57 West Africa, Chevron and other beads from Venice

58 West Africa, Ghana
remark van der Sleen; Beads received from mister Salsosilli (bead factory in Murano)
Sent by an agent from Ghana to copy



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Posted by: Stefany Post Reply
10/03/2013, 11:52:00

Hans
hope you will visit London some time?



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