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Posted by: lopacki Post Reply
06/05/2012, 14:06:26

One of the nice things about being an accomplished Jeweler/Lapidary is that you get to fondle many precious objects that you might otherwise never get to hold in your hands. Fred contacted me about working on just such an item and I thought it might be fun to get feedback from all of you collectors on just exactly what you think this was originally made for.

When I first received this I looked at it briefly and put it down, later in the evening I had a much closer look and was amazed at what I saw. One of the coolest things were the four faces that are on it. The piece is a myriad of random canes and then to top it off there is the aventurine.

I am posting these two images to see what feedback comes in and then I will post a few more to show you what I did for Fred later on. One question I have is regarding the face cane in the piece, I have seen on this forum images of face canes in various pieces and canít for the life of me remember who the premier face cane maker was, if I am right the face canes in this piece are from that person.

early on forgot to include the size its 47mm 1.85 inch long and 25.3mm 1 inch at its largest diameter

Give a guy a little feedback!!

All my best ........... Danny

P.S. My guess it was made as a walking stick handle.

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More of the faces
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Posted by: lopacki Post Reply
06/05/2012, 14:17:04

Thanks for the talk Thomas as you can see it was very helpful, no mirrors yet but much better images.

Danny

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No face sides
Re: More of the faces -- lopacki Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: lopacki Post Reply
06/05/2012, 14:32:47

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Re: No face sides -- lopacki Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Cody Post Reply
06/05/2012, 16:27:27

These look a bit like Brian Kerkvliet's face canes. Yes? No? The overall bead including shape, aventurine, and optical depth reminds me of some of the work of the Pacific Northwest "ring of fire" folks like Brian or Patricia Frantz from the late 1990's.

If not, any chance you were thinking of Kevin O'Grady?

My two cents...



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Did you ever wonder
Re: No face sides -- lopacki Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: lopacki Post Reply
06/06/2012, 16:22:36

why when you take the time to post three groups of photos of the same piece that the first group gets what it gets as far as views go, the second usually half as many views, and the third less than the second .......... Has to make you stop and think just how interested are most viewers.

All my best ...... Danny



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Maybe itís a software thingÖ.
Re: Did you ever wonder -- lopacki Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: David Post Reply
06/06/2012, 19:09:42

Many experienced forum users will click view all and open all the post at once and their views wonít be counted on the follow up threads. Or, they are following the treads links on the bottom of the message page and not being counted.



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THANK YOU DAVID
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Posted by: lopacki Post Reply
06/07/2012, 08:41:19



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Possibly Franchini face canes...?
Re: Face cane ... What is it on?? -- lopacki Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
06/05/2012, 17:36:04

A very informative past post from Jamey and others (thank you all!) - I'm absolutely not sure, but the faces seem so well done on Fred's piece, and it looks very Italian to me......Fred, what does Jamey think about it? And what is Danny going to do with it?





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Thank you Joyce
Re: Possibly Franchini face canes...? -- Joyce Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: lopacki Post Reply
06/05/2012, 17:58:21

Franchini was the person I thought of as soon as I saw the faces, they are so well done its amazing and from what you have posted I think this may be right.

I will also ask Fred and Jamey (I know you are looking but not commenting)what do you think?

I just measured the smallest face cane it is 4.6mm wide

All my best ...... Danny



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I think a bit later.....
Re: Face cane ... What is it on?? -- lopacki Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: TASART Post Reply
06/05/2012, 19:47:23

Danny, I think this piece is a bit later than Franchini, here is a picture of real Franchini cane handles

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examples of later....
Re: I think a bit later..... -- TASART Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: TASART Post Reply
06/05/2012, 19:50:37

Here are a few "Post Franchini" items that appear similar to yours

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Examples of Brian Kerkvliet Face canes etc......
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Posted by: TASART Post Reply
06/05/2012, 20:13:04

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60's
Re: Examples of Brian Kerkvliet Face canes etc...... -- TASART Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: TASART Post Reply
06/06/2012, 11:43:36

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Re: 60's ... oicwhachadithar
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Posted by: Charles Post Reply
06/06/2012, 14:55:14

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Freaky, groovy!
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Posted by: Frederick Just Fred Post Reply
06/06/2012, 19:54:28

Frederick

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It seems to me:
Re: Face cane ... What is it on?? -- lopacki Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Frederick Fred, Fred Post Reply
06/06/2012, 00:36:37

I feel that Franchini pieces have greater clarity in their usage of millefiori and face canes. I believe this piece is late 19th century.

I would pay well for a couple of beads to go with this piece. But shades of brown in aventurini vary greatly; I have a lot of trouble matching aventurine glass in most beads.

Thank you for the beautiful photography Prince Daniel.

Sincerely, Sir Frederick

Frederick

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Moretti?
Re: Face cane ... What is it on?? -- lopacki Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: brianbrian Post Reply
06/06/2012, 08:23:55

The book "Minature di vetro" shows face canes by Franchini and Moretti and some full figure canes by Barovier. Nearly all of the face canes from this period were portraits. The faces are a little difficult to see on the cane or umbrella handle and some of them are incomplete but they look more like Moretti canes than those by the other makers. The Moretti canes look to be composed of fewer elements than the Franchini canes (Franchini became completely obsessed with his work, was not very successful and ended his days in an asylum).

The handle bar moustache in some of the face canes can be seen in portraits by both makers but seems to become more common in the Moretti canes. The man with the moustache also has quite long hair otherwise he looks quite like the first of a series of portraits of Vincenzo Moretti from 1885. The series becomes more detailed, composed of more elements, over time.

The canes may well have been used long after they were originally made and the fact that some of them seem to be fragments might suggest that they were rejected for the highest quality initial work.



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scent bottle?
Re: Face cane ... What is it on?? -- lopacki Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Frederick Fred Post Reply
06/06/2012, 08:52:45

notice proportions of lot 58:

http://www.lhselmanltd.com/auc24/13.html

Frederick

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