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Posted by: linzib Post Reply
02/09/2016, 12:43:54

Hi have been lucky enough to acquire a collection of beads . they are all definitely pre 1960 and possibly much older. would appreciate help in identifying and dating them. Thank you. There are several so will put onto 2 posts

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top photo - large beads are Venetian
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
02/09/2016, 16:07:07

And it looks like a 1920 s "flapper" necklace. How long is it?



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Posted by: linzib Post Reply
02/10/2016, 00:36:45

Thank you so much , Of course now I have got it out the bag and extended it properly I can see it is a long lariat type necklace with a tassel on the end. I was so fixated that they were African beads (as have alot more of those which will post presently)
It measures 26 1/2 " long. Having searched again using Venetian as a keyword have found similar that are melon millefiori. Feeling very relieved that I didn't cut it up for the beads !!! cheers again.



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Good thing you put away the scissors...
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
02/13/2016, 00:02:01

The original context of the beads as an intact Liberty necklace states their time frame like nothing else would. It's a shame when these threads get old and break, and more of a shame when someone snips them up before that happens...



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Posted by: linzib Post Reply
02/13/2016, 14:21:30

I guess I didnt think I would have been given anything with any value. Very glad I left them alone- the necklace is perfect with no damage. Your help and advice is much appreciated



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Posted by: linzib Post Reply
02/10/2016, 12:14:12

more pics

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Posted by: Frederick II Post Reply
02/12/2016, 21:30:40

For comparison, see ebay item
# 322002198474



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Same bead style, using different cane slices...
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
02/12/2016, 23:56:05

The ebay melon beads are decorated with rosetta cane slices with a 5-point star as the center, and the beads posted by linzib have what is known as a brecciated core which was molded using a 7-lobe "floral" mold.



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Posted by: linzib Post Reply
02/13/2016, 14:18:09

Thank you for the ebay number- yes those are v similar. And a high price too. I am going to be selling all my items on ebay (uk) as soon as I have found out what they are and idea of value !



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Where in UK?
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
02/13/2016, 16:11:44

I'll be in London in May, any chance we could meet? Please send a private reply.



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Any info about the green rounds and the green 'crinkly' beads?
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Posted by: Luann Udell Post Reply
02/09/2016, 17:27:25

In the bottom picture, LOVE those crinkly green beads! Stone? Glass???

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Posted by: linzib Post Reply
02/10/2016, 00:56:10

Hi there, the green bubbly rounds are glass I am pretty sure -not any kind of stone or gem - the bubbles are what makes me think that. There are some loose beads including one that is 3/4 " diameter and some still knotted on a green string that are 15" long doubled. Design doesn't seem to have been a straight round necklace as knotting divides so maybe a lariat? Some beads have darker inclusions and most have bubbles.
The crinkly green beads seem very old and possibly stone or ceramic . they have hole running through them so are deffo beads despite appearance. The beads that were with those, the round are also stone or ceramic I think, old and misshapen and covered in dirt so wondering if they have been dug up. All the beads on that pic have been stored together although vastly different in era and style so not sure if any significance to that grouping or not!
Thank you for any help :)



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Posted by: linzib Post Reply
02/10/2016, 02:26:45

ah my comments relating to the green round glass bubbly beads are actually the beads in another post - sorry for confusion



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Posted by: linzib Post Reply
02/10/2016, 12:12:58

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Posted by: Stefany Post Reply
02/10/2016, 15:58:37

to me those forms resemble walnuts... but i think the egyptian idea is probably right...



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Re: Any info about the green rounds and the green 'crinkly' beads? Egyptian faience
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Posted by: cicada Post Reply
02/10/2016, 13:15:53

Green "crinkly" beads most likely ancient Egyptian faience. They are stylized Eye of Horus
beads.

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Posted by: linzib Post Reply
02/10/2016, 13:24:07

Hi Terry, thank you - that's great info will go and investigate !



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Posted by: linzib Post Reply
02/10/2016, 13:39:16



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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
02/10/2016, 18:36:04

I sometimes it is really freaky how much the forum members know about all sorts of beads...Terry, your identification of these is truly amazing & impressive!



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2nd photo, made to look like micro mosaic tesserae
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Posted by: Vicki Fish Post Reply
02/14/2016, 06:16:03

Second photo, the detailed beads were made to resemble Italian micro mosaic tesserae like seen in brooches.

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Posted by: linzib Post Reply
02/14/2016, 08:10:35

thank you- any idea of poss age or era? They looked to me like the colour changing ones from 60's but must be older than that due to who they belonged to and when?



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