Posted by: stefany Post Reply
06/24/2020, 16:00:55
at the top are some linked ovals of a belt that copy in traditional design style -maybe not real old shell pieces, but below that is a strand with cylindrical shell lengths and a decorated shell as a pendant- also another shell and a slightly domed disc shape... elements often parts of traditional adornment, whether these pieces themselves are old or not.
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Posted by: judy Post Reply
06/25/2020, 16:13:27
thank you Stefany for entertaining us so well during our confinement. Here are a few shell ornaments of interest to add to your post. This one is a shell ornament from Tibet. I believe it's made from the same type of shell that you show in your post.
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06/25/2020, 16:15:29
this one is a belt from the Kuba tribe, Congo
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06/25/2020, 16:18:54
an arm band, front and back, from the Kuba tribe, Congo
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Posted by: stefany Post Reply
06/26/2020, 02:55:37
thanks Judy-
your second message image shows a magnificent row of the tops of Conus shells - might have been a girdle? and the last one with a quantity of matching cowries.
i would really like to know much more about the possibly fossilised shells in the Himalayas that may have been dug from strata of rock or soil- even if different shells are now being used for making beads, maybe imported from the coast...
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Posted by: AnneLFG Post Reply
07/21/2020, 14:21:36
The shells on this Kuba Belt look like the venomous predatory Cone Snail Shell. They have a venomous barb that comes out of the opening and injects poison! But these shells are widely collected and admired- especially the ones with a type of triangular "fractal" patterning.
Examples:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cone_snail
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Posted by: will Post Reply
06/26/2020, 13:29:02
Hi Stefany, Thanks for opening up this topic. It’s a fascinating one. The word chank comes of course from Sanskrit, shankha, and the chank shell is an important symbol and ritual object in all the great non-monotheistic religions that come originally from South Asia. I’ll attach below a Khmer (C12) bronze of Vishnu crossing the cosmic ocean, and in his upper left hand he holds - as almost always - a chank shell. The chank shell was a symbol of water, and thence of purification, but it was also associated with the female genital organs and fertility, which may take us back to even earlier matriarchal cultures. I don’t think there’s anything surprising about it appearing in Tibet as part of the spread of Buddhism. In earlier times already, huge quantities of cowries were transported over very long distances because they had come to be symbols of wealth, and monks or pilgrims would have felt honoured to dedicate years of their lives to obtaining objects of ritual significance for their monastic centres. Cheers, Will
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Posted by: stefany Post Reply
06/26/2020, 13:48:51
so now we also know where the Beatles favourite Indian sitar musician got his surname- i have been aware that the chank shell is one of the 8 auspicious symbols... as depicted in various tibetan contexts .. and used to have a carved bone bead netted lama-apron that featured all 8 of them - but it got sold. i have archived photos but they are large and i never yet found a way to reduce the size so i can share here. only new images from my phone are usually OK. if you have my book from 2016 "Beads... a collector's guide" its shown on P. 23 at the start of the Tibet chapter.
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Posted by: will Post Reply
06/27/2020, 10:36:09
Hi again, Stefany, Yes, the ritual symbols and practices are important, of course, but we shouldn't ever forget the sheer pleasure in the shells themselves. From very early on, people in southeast Asian cultures were using them for personal adornment. I'll attach a couple of examples of a bangle and an ear ring that were found in a neolithic site about 4.000 years old near Lopburi in Central Thailand. I think the structure of the shell in cross-section connects with an essential human attraction to spiral patterns. The spiral leads you deeper into the centre, or out to infinity; or it can connect to an adjoining spiral and lead you back into the centre again - which we find in the patterned borders of Ban Chiang bronzes. Which came first, the ornament or the ritual object? I don't think we know for sure, but in a neighbouring grave at the Lopburi site a pair of intact calcified chank shells were found, so maybe by that time already they were being valued for more than their decorative qualities. W.
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Posted by: nishedha Post Reply
06/28/2020, 02:39:35
A male: "Ancient belief classifies the conch into male and female varieties.The thicker- shelled bulbous one is thought to be the male (purusha), and the thin-shelled slender conch to be the female (shankhini)."
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Posted by: stefany Post Reply
06/29/2020, 06:45:33
it looks very well loved-
this information new to me, is interesting- Purusha, and Shankhini
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07/30/2020, 06:55:58
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Posted by: stefany Post Reply
06/29/2020, 02:40:08
I discovered these at Tucson and paid a bit much because i'd never seen them before- however they then turned up on various sales tables on strands as himalayan prayer beads.
they appear to be recognisable as round fat shell beads with a spiral structure, but they have been decorated with lettering - i'm told on each bead it says "Om Mani Padme Hum" and looks as though the background area has been stained with a dark brown colour- maybe tea?
anyway they belong in the lettering category as well as the "Beads Made From Thick Shell" category. i have been able to give a single bead to each family member who might need encouragement, blessings or extra luck at this moment...
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Posted by: will Post Reply
06/29/2020, 09:56:31
These come from the Tircul (Pyu) culture, late period, 500-800CE. W
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06/29/2020, 10:01:14
... hopefully!
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Posted by: stefany Post Reply
06/29/2020, 11:00:31
marvellous-i have also seen gold versions of Cowries among ancient beads from Egypt...
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Posted by: will Post Reply
06/30/2020, 05:54:02
Hi Stefany, They made gold cowries in Zhou dynasty China too. I've never been able to get hold of one, but I have "cowries" from that period (early first millennium BCE) made from wood, mother of pearl, bone, bronze and moulded clay, and a very nice pair carved from the best white jade (nephrite). I imagine they were worn as amulets. W.
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06/30/2020, 05:54:32
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Posted by: Laboom Post Reply
08/02/2020, 15:29:23
These were sold as 'Chank.'
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08/02/2020, 20:13:10
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08/03/2020, 11:48:20
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Posted by: bob Post Reply
08/03/2020, 12:01:56
The chank shell cores are from Tibet. It would appear they are likely amulets. The strands of chank shell were represented as Naga along with everything ethnographic that came out of the Northeast Indian region sourced in Nepal.
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