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Posted by: lopacki Post Reply
04/05/2020, 09:21:00

This is one of my favorite multi eyed ancient stone beads. It came from Hassan Khan that had purchased it in Pakistan, found in the Swat valley.
I won't hazard a guess on the culture but a truly amazing bead.

All my best .......... Danny

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Posted by: brian graham Post Reply
04/05/2020, 11:14:49

Beautiful bead.

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Posted by: Metateman Post Reply
04/05/2020, 18:31:02

Hello Danny

Nice looking bead. Is the stone agate?? Can you please show the holes

From Walter



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Posted by: lopacki Post Reply
04/06/2020, 10:30:07

Walter if I knew what case it is in. I took this image years ago and have five roll around cases that we used to take to the Tucson show when we were selling. I may have an image of the hole when I took this image I will look and if I find one I will post it.
All my best...........Danny

I would say the stone it Orbicular Jasper



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Posted by: Metateman Post Reply
04/06/2020, 17:09:32

Hello Danny

I hope to have some new beads to share in the next few days. Another variety of eye beads from SEA.
I like your bead.



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4 beads with eyes
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Posted by: metateman Post Reply
04/08/2020, 20:31:21

Hello BCN

I just received these 4 beads today
The bicone is 16 mm x 50mm
the 4 eyed round bead is approx 23mm x 10mm
the smaller 2 eyed bead is 24mm x 21mm x 12mm
The larger 2 eyed bead is 31mm x 28mm x 9mm

The 2 eyed and 4 eyed beads are from Burma
The bicone was most likely traded in to Burma

All opinions welcome.
Enjoy the picture

I will post a few more beads later this weekend
sincerely from Walter

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Posted by: will Post Reply
04/09/2020, 10:40:46

Very nice beads, Walter, especially the lower right, which is quite rare.

W.



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Love that bead! Dimensions?
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04/07/2020, 12:56:46



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Posted by: will Post Reply
04/09/2020, 10:57:48

That really is an amazing bead, Danny. I don't remember ever seeing one quite like it with such regular eyes.

Here are a couple of my own favourites. The first is from Central Asia. The second was found in Northern Burma near Halin.

Cheers,

Will

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Posted by: Metateman Post Reply
04/09/2020, 11:10:04

Hello Will

Very nice looking beads
Please tell us the sizes and can you please post pics of the holes
Again very nice
Sincerely from Walter



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Posted by: will Post Reply
04/11/2020, 11:11:47

I don't have pics of the bead from Burma and it's at my home in Thailand right now. It's just over 5 cm.Here's a photo of the hole on the other one, from Central Asia; it's about 29 mm and has a nice bulk to it.

W.

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Posted by: lopacki Post Reply
04/10/2020, 09:04:32

Beautiful beads thank you for posting. Danny



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Decorated multiple eyes; Indus Valley and a micro un-Zi (!) bead
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Posted by: will Post Reply
04/09/2020, 11:31:31

And of course there are so many etched/decorated stone beads with multiple eyes, though they're not what you really meant, Danny.

The first is from the Indus Valley. When I showed it here once before, I suggested the decoration referred to the seven stars of the Pleiades, but they can also be eyes. Certainly in later Islamic iconography eyes and stars frequently overlap.

The second is a micro-bead about 6mm across. I called it an un-Zi, tongue in cheek, because it's black on white (Beck's Type 2 category), whereas Zi of course are generally white on black or brown. It has three large eyes one of which has a dot in the centre. It comes from one of the sites in Burma where ancient pumteks have been found, but it's not pumtek material - a very pretty little bead, I think. I have another from the same site, black on white, three eyes again with the eyes as part of a scroll pattern, but it's not here with me and I don't have the photo.

W.

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So, do you ascribe to the notion that there are "ancient pumtek beads"?
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Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
04/13/2020, 18:25:51



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Posted by: greg Post Reply
04/09/2020, 23:31:37

Some types friends

Best,
Greg

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Very nice group of eye beads
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Posted by: Metateman Post Reply
04/10/2020, 06:21:07



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Posted by: will Post Reply
04/11/2020, 11:02:46

One of the occasional qualities I like in stone beads is when there's an irregularity in the texture of the stone, between one seam in the agate and another. I don't know the correct terminology for this, or the explanation. I'm sure Danny or Jamey or Frank will be able to tell me.

Anyway, it's what there is in the centre of the eyes in this bead that I'm attaching; again from Central Asia.

Cheers,

Will

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Posted by: greg Post Reply
04/11/2020, 16:55:57

yeah it would be well to know a name for the phenomenon if ones been pegged.

Greg

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Posted by: Laboom Post Reply
04/20/2020, 09:42:24

The term for that is 'druzy,' when one set of crystals forms over the top of another. Today we hear that term applied when the crystals are still bright and sparkly but it's still the correct term for this phenomenon.



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thank you!
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Posted by: greg Post Reply
04/24/2020, 20:52:02

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Posted by: metateman Post Reply
04/13/2020, 09:28:21

Hello to BCN

Here are 4 eye beads from Burma. 3 are like a half bead and one is round

sizes 16mm x 11mm
round one approx 15mm
smallest is 14mm x 10mm
light color one 16mmx 11m

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the light reflects splendidly over them
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Posted by: greg Post Reply
04/14/2020, 04:40:55

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Posted by: stefany Post Reply
04/21/2020, 15:29:30

maybe this doesn't count because its carved?

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my stone Multi eyed ancient bead- the other view!
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Posted by: stefany Post Reply
04/21/2020, 15:34:33

hope this shows up-

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Can you tell more?
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Posted by: hans Post Reply
04/24/2020, 14:22:24

Hi Stefany,
have you more information on this interesting bead?
can you show us the perforation?
Is it a Mezo- or South American bead?
Age? Kind of mineral?
Be well, hans



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More about the 3-headed bead-
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Posted by: stefany Post Reply
04/25/2020, 02:51:56

Hans-
i discovered that this 3-faced pale chalcedony bead with eyes incised using a circle-dot tool seems to me to be very similar to beads found in Syria, in Hababu Kabira, of 3rd millennium BC.
It is illustrated on p. 18 in my bead collectors book. it was bought by me quite a while ago with no information.
My collection of many items is unfortunately kept in my workshop which is currently locked up, not at home, so i'm using images already in my computer and i don't have a view from above showing the hole. Next time i can sneak a visit i may get it, but am obeying the stay-at-home advice now.
my son and daughter don't want to lose their kids' granny yet...



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Posted by: stefany Post Reply
04/25/2020, 06:44:15

you can see a rougher example of this very type on the timeline in James Lankton's " A Bead Timeline, vol 1" at no 285, described on page 28 of his book.



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Posted by: tofsla Post Reply
04/22/2020, 20:25:45

eyes



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Posted by: tofsla Post Reply
04/22/2020, 20:27:00

eyes



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2 more eye beads
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Posted by: metateman Post Reply
04/24/2020, 08:06:49

The larger bow bead is just under 100mm
enjoy
from Walter

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be interesting to see the long bead composed
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Posted by: greg Post Reply
04/24/2020, 20:50:30

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Archeological records showing use of beads as ornaments
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Posted by: Metateman Post Reply
04/25/2020, 08:10:25

Hello Greg

I have been searching thru many records to see if records exist showing how the used these beads.

Pendants attached to the clothing or is there records of multi stone necklaces??

I would like to eventually to exhibit some of my beads individually and some composed into necklaces with carnelian and green quarts beads

If any BCN members can point me to some records detailing how the beads were used would be appreciated.

I have seen record of a bead found at the neck suggesting it was worn around the neck and others are found in various locations.

All input welcome from Walter



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