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Posted by: Luann Udell Post Reply
12/12/2015, 19:01:11

I have no idea where I got these. I thought they might be djenne (dug) beads, except they're bigger, and strung on fishing line. The beads are all different shapes, sizes (from 5mm to 10mm) and shades of white. Well-worn (or etched) surfaces, mostly large holes.

I'd like to find more, but have no idea what they are. Are they trade beads? I also can't remember what I paid for them--are they expensive? If anyone can point me to sources, I'd be grateful.

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Could be a combination
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
12/12/2015, 20:19:01

of white porcelain "Goomba" trade beads (see eBay 371504147357) and wound glass beads (likely Venetian).

Not expensive.

PS I don't know what "goomba" means!



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Rings 'n Things
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Posted by: Floorkasp Post Reply
12/13/2015, 00:02:36

I bought two strands of this type from Rings 'n Things about 10 years ago. I think it said they were from East Africa. Not expensive. That's about all I know. I think they are cool!



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Sadly, I think they're moving on their stock of trade beads.
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Posted by: Luann Udell Post Reply
12/15/2015, 11:04:45

The pickings are slim there, though I did find some white and clear Prosser beads. I think they're cool, too!

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Shipwreck beads found in the Netherlands
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Posted by: hans Post Reply
12/13/2015, 06:54:42

Hi Luann,
Same beads washed up with a piece of a hull, brass bars and some brass kettles in 2012 on the beach of the island Terschelling in the Netherlands. Probably a 17-18th century ship wrecked on its way to Africa / America. These beads also show up on the beaches of Senegal where they are called Goombah, Galet Blanc or Shipwreck beads. The beads are also known as porcelain beads but they are really made of glass. There are stories from Senegal that the beads were thrown into the sea by the widows of fishermen who drowned doing their job.
Would love to know where and in what period the beads were fabricated. You can find them in all parts of Africa at very reasonable prices.

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Here's what I'm doing with them
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Posted by: Luann Udell Post Reply
12/15/2015, 11:06:20

I'm working on a series of neutral colors, and they are lookin' gooooooood.

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One more pic, and....
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Posted by: Luann Udell Post Reply
12/15/2015, 11:07:19

I gotta find more!

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And the bear...
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Posted by: Luann Udell Post Reply
12/15/2015, 19:45:21

Now I have to make more artifacts. Or....tomorrow I'll make some with my faux soapstone animals.
I haven't worked with neutral colors in a couple years. I find I'm loving the look, though. Just ordered more goombas.

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The "powa" are very nice!
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Posted by: ShuD Post Reply
12/16/2015, 19:14:58



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Powa? What's that?
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Posted by: Luann Udell Post Reply
12/17/2015, 17:22:33

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they're the six striped white beads just before the pendant...
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Posted by: ShuD Post Reply
12/18/2015, 03:16:07

old Krobo stuff.



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That's good!
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Posted by: Luann Udell Post Reply
12/18/2015, 23:04:58

These are some of the first trade beads I bought. I love their stripes and their worn look. These are smaller ones, which I've found hard to find.

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"goomba" might be "Coumba", a popular female name...
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Posted by: ShuD Post Reply
12/13/2015, 07:13:07

in Muslim areas of West Africa. Gambians might be able to tell us. They've always ben a bit mysterious as to their origin and age, but plentiful and cheap in the old days. There are many subtle variations, suggesting a long history of production. From the period(s) of the "green hearts" (the "galet rouge"). Plenty in Ghana too. Popular waist beads, even in "Dipo".



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Also traded in North America,
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
12/13/2015, 09:14:38

plenty found in the Sacramento Valley area in CA, along with the "green hearts" (dark trans. green core with brick red/brown on the outside).



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Re: Also traded in North America,
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Posted by: Jim Johnson Post Reply
12/14/2015, 13:37:47

I have a large number of beads like these (in several different sizes) that came from or around former Native American village sites.
The beads I have were sourced from Northern California up through the Great Basin areas of Central Oregon.



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THANK YOU, because of your replies....
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Posted by: Luann Udell Post Reply
12/15/2015, 11:36:21

I was able to find a nice selection to purchase online.
I was getting nowhere with "white trade beads", but "goomba" helped a lot! SO GLAD to have this forum!!!

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Don;t confuse the drawn "goomba" with...
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Posted by: ShuD Post Reply
12/15/2015, 18:08:14

with the wound pseudo-padres (unless you want to).



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Posted by: judy Post Reply
12/16/2015, 16:44:55



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Found these 'dug' beads, too!
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Posted by: Luann Udell Post Reply
12/17/2015, 17:26:52

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Related link: White Djenne' beads at www.coincoin.com
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This gallery is new to me, too.
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Posted by: Luann Udell Post Reply
12/17/2015, 17:38:04

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Related link: Gallery Ezakwantu

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Their "copal amber" beads are Bakelite (phenolic resin)
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12/19/2015, 09:21:03



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