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Posted by: birdi Post Reply
08/04/2016, 13:33:56

Are these the old Chinese millefiori I've seen shared by Frederick? It is not on original stringing, just some thin monofilament, with seed beads instead of knots. Thanks to BCN, I recognized them at a thrift store yesterday. 11-12mm diameter.

Does green signify anything special in Chinese culture?

My flights of fancy see dragons and dragon eyes in the designs.

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Perhaps 1980s.......?
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
08/05/2016, 07:03:39

A guess, hoping others can shed light.



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Frederick?
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Posted by: birdi Post Reply
08/06/2016, 05:57:36

Well Joyce, they look newish, I have to admit.

What's the story again about Chinese bead making? Bead factories stopped production during much of the 'Cultural Revolution'? Then some bead production of older styles began again at some point?

Were the beads in my photo for trading outside the country, or were they for use inside China?

I know, I know.... so many questions.

One thing I can say... the millefiori slices were made from 'rolled' cane, creating the spiral effect. This is how I recognize them. This technique also appears sometimes in Japanese beads.

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answering my own question..... 'Boshan' beads
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Posted by: birdi Post Reply
08/08/2016, 02:46:25

I remembered the word Boshan, referring to these beads. BCN search does not seem to work. I did a Google search of BCN and found several posts. I understand if Frederick does not want to discuss these any more.

There was a green bead very much like mine on a collector's strand. This bead was not pointed out as 'new', so I still have hope mine might be the older type of Boshan trailed millefiori.

My beads have well centered distinct starbursts and two color trailings that seem 'confident'.

The perforations are clean with no sign of release residue.

The condition is 'like new', however.... New old stock? or just new?



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Do you not like them as well if they are newer?
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08/08/2016, 04:43:07



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where made? when? where used/traded?... the big questions... always
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08/08/2016, 05:27:36



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Posted by: collectivecollage Post Reply
08/11/2016, 19:08:54

So Chinese ......
Not even Funny
NICE FIND



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Posted by: collectivecollage Post Reply
08/11/2016, 19:08:54

So Chinese ......
Not even Funny
NICE FIND



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Posted by: collectivecollage Post Reply
08/11/2016, 19:09:34

LIKE EARLY



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Posted by: collectivecollage Post Reply
08/11/2016, 19:15:16

or a really good Japanese Knock Off
Pre 1920
how much for half the strand



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not for sale
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08/11/2016, 21:00:08



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Heard back from dealer of Asian material for decades....
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
08/11/2016, 21:11:38

who says no more than 20 years at most for these nice looking green examples.



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thank you Joyce
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08/11/2016, 22:41:21



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