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Bodoms discovered today-
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Posted by: Stefany Post Reply
11/22/2015, 07:03:15

these ones appear to be clay or glass beads decorated with trailed/pulled glass- the holes are large, smooth and straight.
would love to know more about their age, etc...

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Help with knowledge bead ID
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Posted by: Kai Post Reply
10/09/2015, 09:15:39

Hi everyone, I am new to this so I hope the pictures come through. I am not new to beads as my father has collected them over the years. I have just started to show an interest in them and their meaning to tribal peoples. He has told me his opinion on this bead with a but. He always says "Do not believe or disbelieve what you are told but check it out as best you can and then make your own mind up" So he suggested I join this group and get opinions, so as to make my own mind up. So thanks for your opinions in advance.

kai 16 years and a not so rich student

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Re: Adepoade
Re: Adepoade -- TASART Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: TASART Post Reply
10/09/2015, 19:06:27

More Examples from the Picards


Related link: Picard Adepoade

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great article
Re: Re: Adepoade -- TASART Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: TASART Post Reply
10/09/2015, 19:43:15

Stanfield, Kirk
2000-2001 The Krobo and Bodom. Beads 12/13: 63-76.



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Re: Help with knowledge bead ID
Re: Help with knowledge bead ID -- Kai Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Frederick II Post Reply
10/09/2015, 15:23:22

Hi Kai,

Please include measurements. And why not share the information you and your father may have correctly or incorrectly gathered?

Just Fred



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Posted by: Kai Post Reply
10/10/2015, 00:21:49

Hi Fred, my father thought it was a Bodom bead because of the core. He had not heard of the name Adepoade so he and I have both learnt something.

Kai



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what do you think about this necklace?
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Posted by: kika Post Reply
09/30/2015, 09:08:14

Hi all,
I bought this necklace on a market in 2003 In Cameroun. the dealer said to me that they were from Ghana, and Bodom, but I see Hebron beads, I think, and an islamic bead. I don't know if they are old, or modern bodom. There is also a big red bead, that I don't know.
What do you think about theses beads?
thanks at all!

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nothing bodom here, if you know the meaning of bodom
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Posted by: ShuD Post Reply
09/30/2015, 17:05:00



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The meaning of "Bodom" according to The Corning Museum of Glass:
Re: nothing bodom here, if you know the meaning of bodom -- ShuD Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Frederick II Post Reply
10/01/2015, 00:31:00



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Re: Re: nothing bodom here, if you know the meaning of bodom
Re: The meaning of "Bodom" according to The Corning Museum of Glass: -- Frederick II Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: kika Post Reply
10/01/2015, 06:00:25

Thanks for your answer!
I thought there are not true bodom, there are glass powder beads made in Africa. Where? I don't know, they come perhaps from the same country than the another glass powder beads that are from one color. I called them "modern Bodom", because they want maybe imitated bodom. But I do not know if they come from Ghana. But one of them is an islamic: that is often the surprise in these necklaces: the black one with white stripes near the big red bead!!. Once, I discovered a Morfia bead in a necklace with beads without any value!! it is the surprise of the researcher of beads in Africa!!!!

kika

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Re: what do you think about this necklace? -- kika Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: marinus274 Post Reply
10/01/2015, 11:25:46

Powder glass beads from Ghana imitating Bodom, King beads, Coral, Hebron, Amazonite, Amsterdam blue glas and even an early Islamic one.
But all imitations, on the local market 1 or 2 dollars maximal for the whole string.
Sorry!
Marinus



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One cruciform "Bodom" and two Akoso beads with Burmese amber:
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Posted by: Frederick II Post Reply
10/02/2015, 00:30:38

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Re: One cruciform "Bodom" and two Akoso beads with Burmese amber:
Re: One cruciform "Bodom" and two Akoso beads with Burmese amber: -- Frederick II Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: kika Post Reply
10/02/2015, 07:54:28

thanks Frederick,
I admit that I have liked never a lot bodom, thus I do not know them very well. Here are some beads. You can tell me if they are bodom?. I have a doubt also. I believe that akoso are more interesting. Here is a serie of pics of the samples that I have. What do you think about it?

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another "bodom"
Re: Re: One cruciform "Bodom" and two Akoso beads with Burmese amber: -- kika Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: kika Post Reply
10/02/2015, 07:56:39

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Posted by: kika Post Reply
10/02/2015, 08:02:51

I forgot the size: 3,3cm x 2,9 for the first, the second: 3,6cm x 2,9 and the third, this one: 3,1 cm x 1,8. The last seems older, the glass seems very affected.

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Posted by: kika Post Reply
10/02/2015, 08:11:49

and the serie of akoso. The bigger is 2,8 cm x 1,3 and the smaller 1,8 x 1,1.
For the second pic: there are biconic: the bigger is 1,4 x 2,1 and the smallest: 0,6 x 1,4

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Posted by: kika Post Reply
10/02/2015, 08:16:38

the last: approximately : 1,3 x 0,9 and 1,2 x 0,8

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I agree, the bi-cones you showed are powder glass, not Venetian
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
10/02/2015, 19:03:42

For the specific beads in these pictures, I'm not sure since I'm not an expert in Akosu powder glass. These look to me like the decoration was added after the beads was made - could they be decorated with ceramic paint?



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Re: I agree, the bi-cones you showed are powder glass, not Venetian
Re: I agree, the bi-cones you showed are powder glass, not Venetian -- Rosanna Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: kika Post Reply
10/03/2015, 06:40:54

thanks Rosanna,
No, the décoration was not added after the beads was made. absolutely not. There are not my favorite beads, I prefer the kiffa, for example!!! and many other!!!
And what do you think about the bigger beads that I sent above? they are not venetian, the powder glass is clear different, but are they bodom? the last seems older than the other.

kika

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I'm sorry but I don't know how to tell "Old Bodom" from new beads made in similar fashion
Re: Re: I agree, the bi-cones you showed are powder glass, not Venetian -- kika Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
10/03/2015, 10:10:17

Maybe others can chime in?



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Re: what do you think about this necklace? -- kika Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: ShuD Post Reply
10/05/2015, 18:00:48

y'all don't know what "bodom" means.



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"Big Bead", I believe...educational reading/viewing
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
10/05/2015, 18:40:41

Good references are included in Picards' intro. All of the Picard exhibits are treasures for those interested in African Trade Beads.


Related link: Picard exhibit on Ghanaian beads
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BCN site search "bodom" since July 2007
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
10/05/2015, 19:02:17


Related link: BCN site search "bodom" since July 2007

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Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
10/06/2015, 01:05:51

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10/06/2015, 01:30:07

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Posted by: kika Post Reply
10/09/2015, 03:29:45

Thanks for this long debate, it was so instructive for me, and I did learn to appreciate Bodom. I understand now why bodom and akoso are so appreciate

kika

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bodom-akoso-krobo
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Posted by: kanana Post Reply
10/07/2015, 08:32:33

please can you explain me de diference betwen bodom-akoso-krobo-modern bodom?



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10/07/2015, 08:45:31

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10/07/2015, 08:47:01

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Re: bodom-akoso-krobo -- kanana Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: ShuD Post Reply
10/07/2015, 16:36:35

Krobo: an ethnic group in Ghana speaking a Ga-Adangbe dialect. They are famous for their (primarily) powder glass bead making using scrap glass from various sources and other compatible materials.

bodom: An Akan (language group) word that, among the Krobo, means "big bead" or "the biggest bead on the necklace". Ashanti people (Akan speakers who speak Twi, a dialect of Akan) will also use the word to identify certain fine, large, usually locally made beads.

akoso (pronounced akosoo, hence the akosu spelling): Probably an Akan word with the meaning "crossing". The two overlapping hairpin designs would be the classic akoso design. Other beads of similar manufacture have acquired the name. You'll find "akoso" in the place name Akosombo, where the dam creating Volta Lake is located and, perhaps, where the deity Kloweke crossed the Volta.

This subject is too tired.



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Posted by: kanana Post Reply
10/08/2015, 07:16:00

thanks



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bodom
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Posted by: kanana Post Reply
10/06/2015, 08:32:31

Is a Bodom

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It's soon on Sunday!! Is it allowed? 1991 Djenne
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10/03/2015, 13:58:59

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Photography of Dipo Initiation Rites; notice the "Bodom" beads:
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10/05/2015, 01:24:14



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Re: Photography of Dipo Initiation Rites; notice the "Bodom" beads: -- Frederick II Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: ShuD Post Reply
10/05/2015, 18:14:17

Notice how most all of the beads worn by these girls are Krobo-made powder glass of styles and qualities that don't make it to the western campfire trade. That there are so-called "bodom" in the mix is ancillary to what's really going on. The blue beads are exceptional and worth more comment. Also, most of the individual styles of beads will have specific names and meanings.



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Cracks from damage or manufacture?
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
09/05/2015, 08:29:45

I'd appreciate some opinions about the jagged surface cracks / crevasses on this bead. Some seem to track the boundaries between glass colors. Do you think these were formed when the bead was made, or from damage the bead sustained later?

Thanks - I would like to be able to describe the condition of this bead as accurately as possible.

Note: it is the larger (18.5 mm diameter) version of the Venetian "tribute" to the cross pattern seen on many Bodom powder glass beads from West Africa.

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akoso V/ bodom
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02/16/2015, 08:29:30


can someone please explain the difference between Akoso and Bodom ?



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Yes, there were beads in Tucson!
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
02/05/2015, 08:51:47

It'll take me some time to unpack all my Tucson 2015 treasures, but here are two Venetian "finds" from the Ethnography Group at the Grand Luxe (formerly Rodeway / Grant Inn). The lime green "cakes" were from Bassem's table, and the rather strange combo of Indian and older Venetian fancies were from Thomas' display.

It was a wonderful trip, with lots of friends, food, rainstorms, and of course, BEADS!!

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Some more Venetian finds
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
02/06/2015, 08:29:08

Found a rare strand with glass snails (Trade Beads of the Old West, Howard Johnson show), and a strand with very rare & unusual green beads with a design that imitates Bodom designs (Alhaji Kaira, Gem Mall)- or were the Bodoms imitating the Venetians ?

Trade Beads of the Old West is the store of one Leo Hakola, who said he's been absent from Tucson for 12 years. His room at HoJo's was chock full of trade bead strands - lots of rare and interesting beads that I have not seen for sale at the African trader's tables. If you are still at Tucson, or not yet arrived - check this one out!

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Finally - another puzzler
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
02/06/2015, 08:49:05

These were found at Joe Loux's booth at Gem Mall and looked interesting for necklace design.

Guess what they were made for originally!

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GREAT picks, Rosanna!
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Posted by: rubyzane Post Reply
02/06/2015, 10:10:41

I like your choices so much. Almost would have wanted the same things. The green Venetians (Bodom design) are very intriguing, and I love the lime green tabs. Of course the Ethiopian silver are great to grab when you find, as they work with so many designs, & they're just such lovely old silver beads. But your Mauretanian carved beads....ah, those were my faves. I would have been tugging them away from you for sure! Glad you had such a great trip & found such fab beads to bring home. Lynne



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Trip report for L.A. Bead Society Show
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
10/30/2014, 22:37:14

I took my camera to the L.A. Bead Society show this time and have a few photos to share. Lots of neat beads to looks at, with a number of sellers featuring old beads, or interesting new beads.

First two pics are of some lovely agates from Kamol's table.

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Old Beads & Things
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
10/30/2014, 22:51:34

Paul Johnson's table always has a great selection of Venetian beads, other beads, finished necklaces, as well as bottles, African items, etc.

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Venetians & newer Bodoms
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10/30/2014, 22:53:57

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Communal show and tell, lets have some fun this weekend
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Posted by: beadweyr Post Reply
10/11/2014, 09:03:38

This post is in a way a response to some thoughts expressed by Fred in the moon man bead post.
We should all feel comfortable in showing to each other what we have here.
We should not be afraid of showing off or feeling like what we have is not like what we see on the board and not important or not worth sharing.
We all have a passion for beads. What we own and do with our beads is important to us and therefore is OK to share in this community as we all feel the same way.
So let's share with each other some images of what we have this weekend, don't be afraid just post what you can.
No rules other than just have fun and share.
I am looking forward to some new background images from you all so don't disappoint:)

Wayne

First up a Satin glass necklace in progress for my wife.

Next an assortment of some early 1900's Venetian.

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"Beauty in the eye of the beholder"...
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10/12/2014, 19:23:20

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I see....
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Posted by: TASART Post Reply
10/14/2014, 09:00:37

an interesting observer looking at some nice Bodoms



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Large Bodom
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Posted by: lopacki Post Reply
08/25/2014, 11:11:02

Got this bead awhile ago and now that I am getting the new website together I thought it would be nice to know a bit about this bead.

The bead is pretty large 36.8mm long 24mm at widest.

Just want to know your thoughts as to age, I know nothing regarding this type bead so thank in advance for you feedback.

All my best ..... Danny

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What is the proper definition of the term "Trade Bead?"
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08/20/2014, 02:52:37

Here is a mendacious auction which prompted the question:

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If I may jump into the deep end of the pool...
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
08/20/2014, 11:13:52

I believe sellers such as the one with this offering of wood beads are trying to reach a certain audience, namely, the buyers who search the term "trade beads". Since "trade bead" is neither a scientific term nor an eBay-defined category, I don't have any problem with people using it loosely.

The seller has put these beads in the Collectibles - Beads - 1800 to 1950 category. I think this is a proper use of the eBay categories if the beads are in fact pre-1950.

But getting back to the term "trade bead". In my humble opinion, this term has "mostly" passed into popular usage as shorthand for "African trade bead", meaning glass (and some stone) beads made in Europe for trade into Africa, from roughly 1500 - 1950. However, the term also seems to be used for European beads traded to North & South America, and other parts of the world as well, although I have never heard anyone say "Chinese trade beads" and mean European beads sold into China. Possibly this is because the Chinese also made glass beads during the centuries that the Europeans were making glass beads, so it would be confusing to use the term for China.

Additionally, people seem to refer to pre-1950 beads made in Africa, such as the wide variety of metal, shell, wood, bone, etc. as well as glass beads like Bodom and kiffa, as trade beads. The emphasis on the term trade beads being linked with Africa is also seen in the use of the term for newly made beads originating from the African continent.

I think the emphasis on Africa when applying the term trade bead is based on the idea that I've seen quoted quite often, namely that the Africans (in general) used beads for money. This is not a concept I've seen advanced for other cultures around the world to any extent. Stories such as the island of Manhattan being traded for beads is another anecdote related to trade beads originating from Europe and being used for barter. It is interesting that "trade" has become so intricately connected to "bead". If the colonial era travelers had swapped pots or fabric to the New World or African residents, would we refer to them as "trade pots" or "trade fabrics"? One is left with the impression that a very large amount of trade was carried on with beads, but there again, I don't know the ratio of beads traded vs. other goods traded.

Also, I don't normally see the term applied to new beads from other parts of the world, for example, the brightly colored ceramic beads from Peru are not referred to as "Peruvian trade beads".

Global trading, in beads and other commodities, of course was going on long before 1500. Beads made in the Levant and Egypt were traded to other parts of Africa, Europe, Middle East, and beyond as one example. Beads made in India traveled extensively as well. Wasn't there a report a while back that beads dated before the Common Era were found in the mid-west of the United States? I have seen all such beads referred to as trade beads, although not as frequently or as exhaustively as beads associated with Africa.

So my conclusions are that the term "trade bead" is being used primarily for the following general categories of beads:

1) European-made beads traded around the world during the hey-day of European bead production of about 1500- 1950.

2) Beads traded to or made in Africa, of any age and from any material or source.

3) "Old beads" that are generally thought of as "collectible", including beads much older than 1500 that are assumed to have "traveled" and therefore were used for global trade.

These are just some ruminations for a Wednesday morning - and are observations, not an attempt to "enforce" anything concerning bead terminology - so hopefully more forumites will jump in and discuss further. And I hope people do not feel that they are afraid to post for fear of being "attacked". Just another hopeful observation on a sunny (and way too dry) California morning.



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Picard Trade Bead Museum Visit - I. Bodom
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
08/02/2014, 20:36:04

We had a great time today in Carmel, CA at John & Ruth Picard's museum. The weather was wonderful, and we started our visit (after a 2 1/2 hr drive) with lunch out on the patio of a local restaurant. In attendance were Joyce, David, Junona, Paula, Fred, Jaret, Gary (Jaret's husband) and myself. John and Ruth joined us as we were finishing up our desserts, then we strolled the short distance to the museum.

The displays of African trade beads are incredible, and as mentioned before, can hardly be done justice with a few photos. Nevertheless, I took a bunch of pix to share with the forum. I'm posting some tonight and will continue tomorrow.

The first group of beads I took pictures of were Bodom beads, which are displayed along with some Venetian "imitation" beads - beads that appear to have been made to copy the designs on Bodoms. However, no one is certain that it wasn't the other way around.

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Like a pilgrimage, the bead people from NorCal....
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
08/03/2014, 11:16:22

make their way to the central coast to the Picard Museum each July, if at all possible....

Rosanna, thank you very much for being the catalyst that pulls this all together! This year, our friend Paula made it here from MD. Paula, it was great to see you again! What a fun day!

And thank you to the Picards for hosting us. This is an essential visit for any person passionate about beads from the African trade. If you can't get there in person, you must own their books documenting thousands of specimens. Remember, two bead museums have closed in the U.S. in the past 5 years......leaving Picard Museum.

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Where the Great Beads of the World Stand Alone...Tucson 2014
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02/09/2014, 21:13:42

I truly enjoyed the trip! It was so great to see Uncle Russ, looking strong and happy! Here he is with a Mary Mullaney chevron on the left, fab Art Seymour chevron on the right.

Rosanna and I took the Amtrak down from Oakland, CA. This is the sunset view from Santa Barbara (or thereabouts) where the train was almost at sea level.....the next morning we were to awaken in Tucson!

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Gem Mall
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02/09/2014, 21:24:04

Always wonderful stuff to see, great people to visit. Here, items from Adham, of Nofert. A super rare, in my opinion, blue cornaline d'aleppo, or white heart. You can see these in Picard vol. 4. Next is a very substantial new black coral inlay prayer strand. It almost fills up a standard 8" x 12" padded display board.

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Abdul Touray at Gem Mall
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02/09/2014, 21:30:38

Our old friend Abdul Touray made it once again, but this time his brother Ebrahim could not make it. With Abdul, a number of strands of beads in excellent condition! First "French Ambassador", next image - Rosanna, help me out with the market name for the ones on the left, a sort of Venetian improv on a Bodom type...and little round fancies referred to as "Arabesque".

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Burnt Biscuit Beads
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12/15/2013, 12:19:48

My arrangement of these old powder glass bodom-style beads looked to me like a cookie-baking disaster, so I added some seed bead "sprinkles" for a holiday effect.

Cheers.

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CEDI beads Ghana part 2 : chevron process 1
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11/04/2013, 15:48:48

I would like to close this CEDI series with his remarkable chevron making. A normal chevron starts with a core layer pressed in a chevron mould which is then further build up layer after layer: the 'inside out' process.

Mr. Cedi came up with his own way of making a chevron more adapted to his specific production circumstances: the 'outside in' process.

This is the outer mould he uses, but in the next pictures he uses a plastic container for demonstration purpose.

I put the previous CEDI link which moved to the next page in the link below.

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Easy to miss....
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11/05/2013, 00:08:17

Martine has also added pictures of the bodom beadmaking process: so do check out the thread on page 2!


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10/20/2013, 13:39:35

My hardworking brother Jef managed to take some time off tomorrow to visit Mr Cedi, who is quite wellknown amongst some of the BCN members. See Art Seymours site:
http://www.seymourchevron.com/site/Welcome.html
Under 'hands across the water' and the 3 'Ghana trips' you can read a bit more about Mr. Cedi and his special connection with Mr. Art Seymour.

I know there are several youtube movies and pictures to be found on the web about glass powder beadmaking, but if any interest I can post some pictures - next week or so- of the workshop that Jef will attend tomorrow. He promised to take many many pictures. So just let me know.

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CEDI recycled beads process 1 : the molds
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11/02/2013, 18:17:59

I got the pictures and hope to have them resized very soon.
When Jef got at Cedi's, only 3 workers out of the 21 were there. A local festival was due the next coming days and everyone had left to their village. Mr Cedi is the most amiable fiendly person and he gave Jef a grand tour explaining and showing all the different steps of the beadmaking.
So I got pictures of the recycled beads process, the bodom making ,the 'outside in'chevron process,...
I guess the majority of you know all these by heart, but I think it is still fun to see the pictures.
So here we go:

The molds are made from clay, in particular of termite clay since this seems to give the best result.

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CEDI Bodom process 1: ingredients
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Posted by: karavanserai Post Reply
11/03/2013, 11:14:42

Since there was no production that day, Mr. Cedi showed the process of making without the firing.
Ingredients: glasspowder, pigments to add to the glass powder

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CEDI Bodom process 2: the making
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11/03/2013, 11:21:29

Mr. Cedi used a glass instead of a mould, so that it would be easy to follow the build up of the design.- inspired upon the old bodoms
Some sticks/straw and a semi funnel will do the job, if you have the skill!

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CEDI Bodom process 3: the making
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CEDI Bodom process 4: the making
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CEDI Bodom process 5: ready to be fired
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11/03/2013, 11:26:44

of course not with the glass. In pic 1 you see the normal bodom mould

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CEDI Bodom process 6: some finished beads
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CEDI Bodom process 7: newly made vs old
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Posted by: karavanserai Post Reply
11/03/2013, 11:31:21

On the left is newly made bodom bead made from old glass. On the right is an old example.
Very close I'd say.

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Thank you, all of you, for your support and this healing necklace
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Posted by: Russ Nobbs Post Reply
08/04/2013, 22:10:59

I was blown away as I opened the package Joyce and David sent. I was crying as I tried to read all the notes and wishes sent with the bead and necklace.

It is humbling to realize and accept all the love sent my way by the bead community and BCN. Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!

Dee takes me back to the hospital in the morning for course #5 of chemo so I don't have time this evening to read all the notes. The necklace is overwhelming. I think you all understand how much this means to me.

The love and care sent my way is working. We believe I am in remission at this time but I will take more chemo to make sure. Then I move to OHSU in Portland for stem cell harvesting and transplanting. With your support we will make it through this adventure.

Thank you all. I love you all.

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Healing wishes, Russ! Bead id and the contributors.....
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08/05/2013, 22:44:22

Hugs and thanks to everyone……in order of their beads arrival…….

Linda, Jan, Jeff, Judy, Rosanna, Frank and Charlene, Matt, Paige, George, Joan, Jaret, Billy, Rick, Paula, Jamey, Terry, Stefany, Art, Luann, Julianna, Stacy, Tom, Danny, Wayne,Charles, Thomas, Floor, Peter, Carole T., Cody, Bassem, Margot, Carole M., Guy and J'Me,
Rachel, and Jake.

Word got out beyond, and yet another lovely bead arrived here on Saturday, which will be sent along to Russ. Thank you, Harold!

The necklace is approx. 48" long and weighs 13 ounces. Maybe not for square dancing or picking up recyclables at music festivals, but for sipping lattes, attending art openings or the theater, dining with other bead heads, perfect!

And now, a bead-by-bead id:

1) ancient white agate cylinder
2) Peter's first glass bead! From the Netherlands
3) oval multi-color chevron, newer grind
4) translucent bead bearing ashes of the late Al Lind, by Art Seymour
5) genuine modern wampum bead by the Wampanoag tribe of Martha's Vineyard
6) lampwork berry bead by Guy of Wild Things
7) ancient agate cylinder bead from Mali
8) Venetian lamp work "festooned" bead
9) lampwork bead by Jim Smircich, early 1990s
10) Chinese turquoise bead
11) chevron from the first batch Art Seymour ever made, circa late 1986
12) ancient beads of amber
13) antique Krobo bodom family bead
14) hollow blown bead by Floor in the Netherlands
15) lamp work eye bead by Charles (will show another image showing the cool eye)
16) modern Krobo recycled glass
17) blown Venetian glass heart with gold leaf
18) Venetian lampwork replicating Krobo bodom
19) polymer otter by Luann Udell
20) Venetian lampwork bicone
21) lampwork by Tim of Beaded Lily, now in UK
22) Venetian 6L chevron bead, grind by the Howard family
23) antique Krobo bodom bead
24) large polymer bead of Union flag cane decor, by Carole Morris and Graeme in UK
25) large decorated stone bead, red/white/blue eye, from India
26) Venetian 6L chevron bead, grind by Uwe Wantke in Germany
27) lampwork bead, unknown artist
28) modern Krobo powder glass bead
29) very ancient olive shaped agate eye bead
30) folded polymer bead by Jamey Allen, with decor of 3 Khamsa with eyes. 1990s.
31) antique 4L aspeo chevron, Dutch or possibly Venetian
32) antique Khond brass bead from India
33) polymer chevron by Cody Craynor
34) ancient Islamic black and white teardrop
35) ancient Islamic sea foam green furnace bead with inserts
36) black and white contemporary chevron from India
37) 19th c. Italian terracotta Maiolica bead with "Spes Mea", or "My Hope"
38) Venetian oval millefori bead, early 20th c.
39) large teardrop antique mother of pearl bead
40) ancient Islamic eye bead
41) ancient beads of amber
42) Venetian multi chevron
43) red chevron, applecore grind by Rick Rice
44) ancient Roman furnace wound double bead
45) antique agate bead
46) modern Krobo recycled glass
47) 2013 BCN agate bead, made in Taiwan

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Hat's off to Joyce
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Posted by: floorkasp Post Reply
08/06/2013, 05:40:07

Looking at this necklace, it not only is a magnificent collection of beads, it is also very well constructed with great attention to detail. The size of the small (vulcanite/plastic) discs actually match each bead. The amber beads are cushioned with a piece of felt, and the heart bead has a small red bead at the top, so it does not crowd the next one.

Peter is currently travelling in Poland, and I sent him the picture of the necklace. He was very proud that the first, and probably the last bead he ever made was part of such an exquisite collection with such a great purpose. I feel the same.

Russ, good to hear that the mix of chemo, well wishes, good vibes and beads, are doing their job.



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Thanks, it's a group thing,
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08/06/2013, 20:37:42

could not have done it alone, of course! The beads themselves sort of "told me" where they needed to be, on the basis of a # of factors....size, shape, material, color, weight, hollow or solid, relationship to neighboring beads.

It was a joy and a pleasure to do. Happy thoughts of every single person came to me as I strung their bead.

It was a bit of a trial and error for an evening arriving at stringing material and "bumper beads" that functioned well. I used black artificial sinew, it's a heavily waxed polyester. The finish knot is between the BCN bead and the light agate cylinder, singed.

For in-betweens, spacer, or "bumper" beads, first I tried 2 or 3 ostrich eggshell discs. Didn't take long for a couple of them to crumple right off.
I used black vulcanite discs in 2 sizes on the necklace. It serves more than meets the eye......about 1/3 of the beads have really large holes, and I "stuffed" them by winding the cord with additional cord, and "stuffing" it into the bead. The vulcanite at the ends serves as a sort of cap, or "lid" concealing the stuff inside, and protecting these beads, sort of like little packages unto themselves. Another thing I like about the vulcanite material between beads is the fact that it literally keeps glass from grinding against glass. A couple of the beads are moving freely with vulcanite beads inside them their whole length. The big Bodom bead right next to the big polymer bead is moving freely on the vulcanite - I didn't have any vulcanite big enough for it's end, but it's bumping only against the big polymer bead when worn and the free movement is kind of neat.

The knots between each vulcanite/ bead unit are just double overhand knots. I pre-stretched the sinew, and tried to snug down each knot just right, so it's tight without imposing pressure on the bead. The knot, with the protective vulcanite discs, prevents each bead from having to support the weight of all the beads above it when worn.



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New Trade Beads of Interest
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07/18/2013, 11:03:58

Hello all -- I recently came across a couple of trade beads I hadn't seen before through an estate sale. The large black/yellow/red bead is about the size of a quarter and is, unfortunately, cracked on the back, but it still presents beautifully. The other bead I think I've seen before (probably here!) -- but it's still quite pretty (about 20 mm in diameter).


Off to Amsterdam and Paris for next week! Will do some bead shopping while I'm there!


Abe @ beadstore.com

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And Rosanna's example...
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
07/22/2013, 20:55:48

I believe it is thought that this design is the Venetian version of the popular Bodom design, made specifically for the West African market.

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Unsure - is this an akoso?
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Posted by: Preethi Post Reply
07/10/2013, 23:41:56

I purchased this last week in Ghana, but am unsure if it's an akoso. It's about 6.5 cm long.

Any thoughts appreciated. Thanks!

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Posted by: Preethi Post Reply
07/12/2013, 01:21:24

Thanks very much Thomas.

Apologies for not being clearer at the start. I've been trying to find more information on what makes a powder glass bead an 'akoso' or a 'bodom', and am confused.

Also, are there ways of guessing at the age of this bead?



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