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04/07/2012, 20:00:10
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Posted by: Mel H Post Reply
04/07/2012, 23:24:43
Dear Uwe, this bell pull reminds me of some beadwork that the Iroquois Indians of the American northeast did as souvenirs around the 1930's. If you go to the the big E auction site and search for the keywords "iroquois beaded" you will see many of these items. I do believe they are Bohemian and cousins to our friends the "Russian" blues. Hope that helps and thanks for showing, it is very impressive! Best regards,
Melissa
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Posted by: Carole Morris Post Reply
04/08/2012, 03:18:53
Hi Uwe
This is definitely a 19th century European bell-pull - we have them in collections and museums over here. The beads are Bohemian 'sprengperlen' translating as 'broken beads' and in their simplest form are just that - broken tubes. Some of them have much more straight-cut ends and can also be silver- or colour-lined. The more 'upmarket' tubes are (like Mel H said) akin to the 'Russian' blues - often pentagonal or hexagonal in cross-ection and often multilayered. We recently spoke about Waltrad Neuwirth's book 'Perlen aus Gablonz' and the Society of Bead Researchers reprinting of the English section in there - this book has a terrific amount of information about these beads, including images of hanks and strands and amazing colours. They are also found in NW native american pieces, and the Bead Soc of GB has recently been told about some good pieces in the Royal Alberta Museum in Ontario. I'll try and dig out some other images. This would make a good thread. Cheers
Carole
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Posted by: Uwe Post Reply
04/12/2012, 10:53:11
Hi again, Melissa and Carole, today Sönke visited me with his bell-pull (and some very nice beads...), and the used beads are not as different as in my memory (I thought the beads were much darker...), but as mine all beads are hexagonal in cross-section. His one is 210cm long (wow - high rooms at this time!) and 10cm in diameter. The long milky tubes at the bottom are 7cm long and the tubes in the middle of the bell-pull are gold colored from inside.
Would love to see Waltrad Neuwirth's book 'Perlen aus Gablonz', but the prices I have found are behind my limits...:-)
So, Carole, maybe you find some images of other examples...?
Warm Regards
Uwe
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Posted by: Carole Morris Post Reply
04/13/2012, 02:51:35
Hi Uwe A lovely piece! The Society of Bead Researchers has recently published all the colour and bw images and all the English text in a new 160 page version: http://www.beadresearch.org/Pages/Journal_Contents.html In the UK, the Bead Society of Gt Britain is holding copies for the SBR and selling them to anyone interested, normally by pick-up at events, but I will send the odd one out to non-UK residents if the full postage is paid to the BSGB along with the book price: http://www.beadsociety.org.uk/SBR.htm So you could get a copy from either the SBR or the BSGB (and any other BCN member could do the same). Let me know if I can help Cheers
Carole
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Posted by: Carole Morris Post Reply
04/16/2012, 11:08:28
Hi Uwe
I hope you find this one interesting! Although the image is not brilliant (it was taken from a TV screen shot) it has some good examples of green and amber sprengperlen used in the fringe of a Great Lakes region bandoleer bag (probably Chippewa) dating to the third quarter of the 19th century. This item was brought into the Antiques Roadshow on BBC TV in the UK in February 2011 and was slightly misidentified and undervalued by the "expert", but we ran an article on it in the Bead Society of GB journal this time last year and our Native American specialist put everything into perspective for us! You'd enjoy the journals - we have lots of colour articles about all kinds of beads Cheers
Carole
Related link: http://www.beadsociety.org.uk/
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Posted by: Uwe Post Reply
04/18/2012, 11:04:48
Hi Carole,
thanks for showing...! I was looking for similar beaded bell pulls, but did not find any, not on auctions and not with Google...
I just wrote another message to you by the contact button and looking forward to your answer...:-)
Best...
Uwe
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Posted by: vergret Post Reply
04/18/2012, 13:44:05
I don't have beaded bell pulls, but something that resembles; I bought 30 kg of beads, from a family with mobile dancings (joint). Here they call it a spiegeltent, a mobile wooden dancing and they were decorated with these beads
Best regards
Greta
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Posted by: vergret Post Reply
04/18/2012, 13:50:48
Oeps I got the wrong picture
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Posted by: uwe Post Reply
04/19/2012, 11:30:28
30kg, WOW...that´s a lot...I have no idea and the dictonary does not help: what is the meaning of "mobile wooden dancing"...?? Your name sounds German (or near by...), so maybe we can speak German, to clarify...?
Best...Uwe
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Posted by: vergret Post Reply
04/19/2012, 12:31:46
Yes Uwe, I speak German, but I'm Belgian.
If you search Spiegeltent on internet, you will see what I mean. In Deutsch Tanszelten.
Best regards
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Posted by: uwe Post Reply
04/08/2012, 06:07:18
...for giving more informations, than I expected...I will try to meet my friend Sönke during the next week to make a photo of his one, he got 2 or 3 years ago as a birthday gift, made with different beads and even larger.
Thanks again...!!
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