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A Moroccan find....Thomas....what do you think?
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Posted by: red Post Reply
11/28/2011, 14:26:57

This is a very broken faux chevron bead with an old repair
but huge!! Never seen this size before.

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um- how big?
Re: A Moroccan find....Thomas....what do you think? -- red Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Stefany Post Reply
11/28/2011, 14:51:05



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Re: A Moroccan find....Thomas....what do you think?
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Posted by: red Post Reply
11/28/2011, 15:05:42

36 mm long x 26 mm wide
sorry thought I had put a scale in the pic!
S x



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Dimensions?
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Posted by: Stefany Post Reply
11/28/2011, 15:13:28

hi sarah-
i found pictures of it on your "ethnicjewels" site just now, which is great and useful- and I'm glad you explained -so the ruler whose edge is just about visible is divided into millimetres.
the glue looks rather like wax??



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Re: Dimensions?
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Posted by: red Post Reply
11/28/2011, 16:17:33

just re checked, and yes it is wax!fixes the bead nicely!
Warm wishes
S x



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I think......
Re: Re: A Moroccan find....Thomas....what do you think? -- red Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: TASART Post Reply
11/28/2011, 19:27:59

these wound versions are super cool and also very rare, I have a couple about the same size as yours, 35.75mm X 25.75mm, here are some related examples of Chevron fakes, which in my opinion are far more collectible and rare than the beads they copy.

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the chicken or the egg???
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Posted by: TASART Post Reply
11/28/2011, 19:29:33

These same bead type with its drawn cane counterpart, which came first in this case?

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closer view of drawn vs. wound
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Posted by: TASART Post Reply
11/28/2011, 19:56:59

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Re: closer view of drawn vs. wound
Re: closer view of drawn vs. wound -- TASART Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: red Post Reply
11/29/2011, 04:48:52

Great pics Thomas!
Thank you

S x



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I am offering this bead for sale
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Posted by: red Post Reply
11/29/2011, 04:50:04

...I shall pop it onto the trades page in the next few days, but if you are interested drop me a line
S x



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Re: the chicken or the egg???
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Posted by: red Post Reply
11/29/2011, 04:52:57

My thinking....
The true chevrons came first, were labour intensive and popular.
The lampwork ones were an attempt to copy them in a quicker way. They were less popular and therefore less were made.
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Re: Re: the chicken or the egg???
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Posted by: JP Post Reply
11/29/2011, 09:24:17

hello Red
Funny, I am thinking the other way around.
Making a gather, pulling it, cutting it into pieces and then grinding them into individual beads seems a lot of work, but the resulting number of finished beads from a cane in the long run is faster and therefore more economical than making the same number of wound beads one by one if they are intended in mass production.
The chevrons shown in this case are fairly common and are on various sample cards from 1920 to 1940.
The "fake" ones, I believe them to be made in the 1800s (and could be earlier, who knows for sure?).
JP



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Re: Nice bead, and hard to find!
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11/28/2011, 15:56:48



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