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Posted by: Maruta Post Reply
03/15/2016, 12:55:39

I would like to know if any of these look like genuine dzi beads, and approximate values. Thank you

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Posted by: TASART Post Reply
03/16/2016, 12:18:22

I see a few Chung dZi



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Posted by: Maruta Post Reply
03/16/2016, 16:56:27

Great! Thanks.



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Posted by: Simon Post Reply
03/16/2016, 20:13:22

Some of them look authentic for sure, difficult to see because of the photo quality. If the larger ones are authentic then some of them are quite valuable.



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Posted by: Maruta Post Reply
03/16/2016, 20:28:19

Thank you. Would you be willing to give me a ballpark figure? And be a bit more specific about which beads I should check, please?



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Posted by: Simon Post Reply
03/16/2016, 20:48:05

The photo is not clear enough to be certain about authenticity but the beads lined up vertically in three lines all look like they are quite likely to be good. Prices vary a lot depending on how you sell them, one by one or as a lot. The large single eye Dzi in the middle if it is real is worth a lot, easily in excess of $800. The other brown Chung Dzi would be worth a fair bit too anywhere from $80-$500 each depending on size quality damage etc.
The etched Carnelians with the zig zag line, second top row look good for authenticity, I have seen this style bead coming from Northern Pakistahn/Afghanistan. They could probably get $100 a piece for these too.
That's my opinion based on selling them as individuals pieces at full retail.
Once again size and details like damage, patina etc can make a large difference so it is difficult to be accurate based on the picture you provide. Maybe take photos of the beads in smaller groups. A phone camera will get a good shot if you have one, they take pretty good close up pictures if you have a steady .



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Posted by: Simon Post Reply
03/16/2016, 20:59:51

Regarding which ones to check, I think it would be worth finding out if they are all authentic, quite a few of them look to be ancient from what you have shown. The pain orange Carnelian type beads in the top row look very nice to me. Where did you source this lot of beads from and where will you be trying to sell them?



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Posted by: Maruta Post Reply
03/18/2016, 07:37:07

I really appreciate your information. I have a business partner in Gilgit Baltistan, Pakistan. He was approached by one of his associates with the offer.
I have been searching online for people who sell them in the US, but haven't gotten a lot of replies. we may end up selling them ourselves on ebay, If we don't find anyone else to buy them.



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Posted by: TASART Post Reply
03/18/2016, 08:57:33

There are hoards of these types available in Pakistan, with the majority of the "etched" agates being new fakes, some of the fakes are made very nicely and will fool most people.



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Posted by: Simon Post Reply
03/18/2016, 17:42:28

Definitly I agree that there are some very good fakes around. Often the closer you get to the source the better the quality of the fakes that turn up. Quite a few of the flat carnelian beads look suspicious to me but I think it is at least worth finding out more about what is there. Only clearer pictures can give a better idea but I'd look closely at the three top rows. There is such a large range of styles in the beads shown and most are distinctly types that originate from the Swat area. It would be difficult to fake so many different types and find the range of specific raw material that have been used. Several of the beads are broken and badly damaged which is uncommon, but not unheard of with reproductions....after all a good forger always adds some defects. But anyway going by what I see and the experience I have with collecting ancient agate beads in that region I'd say that it worth investigating further what is there.



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Posted by: Maruta Post Reply
03/19/2016, 14:19:05

Thanks for the reassurance :) Waiting for new pictures



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