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Posted by: hans Post Reply
05/16/2023, 02:47:30

Does anyone know something about this kind of glass pendant? This one has no perforation, but a handmade suspension eye of glass. Seemed to be molded on one side in a blob of glass. So not made in Gablonz.
Size 23x24mm. Probably collected in Yemen.

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Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
05/18/2023, 15:22:19

Hello Hans,

A "handmade suspension eye of glass" IS its perforation.

If we consult Peter Francis' booklet, "Third World Beadmakers," he ties-together the modern Eastern Mediterranean glass-beadmakers as being familially related to each other--and as having made similar products.

Unfortunately, my copy is not at-hand, so I cannot quote his remarks.

Viewing your piece, I would say it is probably a local attempt at copying a molded Czech Hajj pendant, and could have been made in Turkey, Palestine, or Egypt. Not to exclude Tashkent. If it was found in Yemen, one might think that Hebron, Palestine, was a likely point of origin. However, Yemen has been a nexus for Hajj souvenirs for a very long time, including the Czech versions. So I suppose its placement in Yemen is not compelling as to a possible origin.

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Posted by: hans06 hans Post Reply
05/22/2023, 06:42:15

Hi Jamey, thanx for mentioning Peter Francis "Third world Beadmakers". I've dug up my copy and it was enlightening to read again. Unfortunally I could not find info on Tashkent in P.F.Jr's booklet. Is there a relation on glass with Bokhara/Samarkand? I don't remember reading about this. My best guess at the moment is that the pendant was made in Hebron, what you mentioned before. Thanx again Hans



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Tashkent/Bokhara
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Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
06/03/2023, 09:57:08

Tashkent is probably just a location where Bokhara-made beads are offered for sale.

They only enter the discussion because they are often similar-in-appearance, because they are also simple furnace-wound glass beads.

Also, I have seen more-recent beads attributed to the region, that were rather more-well-made. So perhaps these very obscure beads persist and are improved. By the time I saw the online offering, the beads were taken.



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06/03/2023, 09:57:22



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I came across an example marked made in Austria
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Posted by: divedog Post Reply
05/24/2023, 21:33:52

I found this Austrian example listed for sale on ebay.
Rare Bohemia Glass Pendent in the Form of a Muslim Tawis Early 20th c.
Description
Bohemia was always ready to reproduce in glass ethnic ornaments, European, as well as African or Asian,to replace the real objects. ,done in more expensive materials .
This pressed pendent is made as an imitation of the Persian tawis, habitually in cornelian and hand carved.
It can be dated around 1910.

Size:

Length: 34mm.

Width: 42mm.

Thickness: 4mm.

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Posted by: divedog Post Reply
05/24/2023, 21:35:20

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05/24/2023, 21:36:42

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05/24/2023, 21:37:43

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Posted by: Hans06 Post Reply
05/26/2023, 07:50:21

Thatís a big one, thank you for showing.



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Posted by: JP Post Reply
05/26/2023, 18:32:09

Nice and interesting rare example.
They are found in Africa made with cornelian or agate stone, probably from Idar Oberstein.
JP



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Posted by: JP Post Reply
05/27/2023, 18:33:18

We have these three samples in our Museum, same size but confusing about the maker.
The green said made in Austria.
the other cobalt and clear said" mad cechoslov" on one Side and "Hassi alla"on the other" .
JP

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Posted by: JP Post Reply
05/26/2023, 18:14:05

Looks like a perfume bottle stopper
JP



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