Posted by: barbcrafter Post Reply
04/22/2019, 12:03:33
My husband bought this necklace at an estate sale. The clasp is not the original clasp. The beads are very heavy. I am trying to figure out if the beads are quartz, glass, jade, something else? The owner had an extensive travel history and is in her 90s. She had a lot of vintage and antique jewelry and beads.
Thank you,
Barbara
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Posted by: barbcrafter Post Reply
04/22/2019, 21:18:20
I am adding 2 more items from the same Estate Sale to get an idea of her collection.
Thanks,
Barbara
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
04/23/2019, 06:39:22
Greetings...
We don't have built-in photo editing software, and so, we need to edit images so that they are viewable on line. Good old PhotoShop Elements still does what I need it to do. I got your image to 141k by taking it from 2880 pixels wide down to 650, at 72dpi.
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Posted by: barbcrafter Post Reply
04/23/2019, 08:14:05
Joyce,
Thank you for your help!
I apologize for the huge photos.
Sincerely,
Barbara
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
04/23/2019, 09:49:01
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Posted by: jrj Post Reply
04/23/2019, 06:55:21
I'm not by any means the most experienced person on BCN, but I like necklaces like necklace no. 1 and I'll take a stab at its origin and date--Czech, from the second quarter of the 20th century or possibly a little later.
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Posted by: barbcrafter Post Reply
04/23/2019, 08:15:30
My husband also guessed Czech.
Thank you,
Barbara
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
04/23/2019, 09:47:27
Ditto the carved Shou pattern on the blue beads. Whether they're glass or dyed quartz is hard to discern from the photos. If you use a loupe, can you see tiny air bubbles? That would indicate glass. Chinese bead components were used by fashion jewelry manufacturers such as Miriam Haskell in the 1930s, so the pieces could be a mix as to origin.
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
04/23/2019, 09:52:03
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Posted by: barbcrafter Post Reply
04/23/2019, 10:02:50
thank you so much!
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
04/23/2019, 09:58:08
A Max Neiger necklace.
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04/23/2019, 10:00:03
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Posted by: AnneLFG Post Reply
04/24/2019, 00:00:20
Hi Barb,
No Expert Here...I'm going to guess Vintage Czech pressed glass as well, although to really know I'd have to examine the beads themselves and the carving to see if it's hand-carved with tool marks and sharp edges and variations VS all the same and smooth as in from a mold. Examining the holes to see if it looks like drilled stone VS glass would also be helpful. And if molded will all be pretty much exactly the same. Also, glass can be carved- not just stone. For some comparison here is an offering on Etsy of what is being called "Antique Chinese Qin dynasty carved blue Peking glass "Shou" symbol bracelet". You can see, I think, a "V" shaped groove left by the carving tool where the design was carved in some of the close-ups:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/652205326/antique-chinese-qin-dynasty-carved-blue?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=shou+symbol&ref=sr_gallery-1-16 It's pretty and looks like she had some interesting pieces to pass along, which is always nice.
Bead lover, collector since Age 15, semi-retired had wholesale/retail bead, folk art, tribal art store Lost and Found Gallery for 25 yrs. in DT Greensboro, NC
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Posted by: barbcrafter Post Reply
04/24/2019, 07:32:03
I need to clean the necklace (obviously!).
From these pictures, they look like they could be a mold?
I'm not sure, though.
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
04/24/2019, 10:04:49
Because I have examples of both styles of glass beads with a shou design - the blue glass ones that appear to have been engraved to a standard pattern, such as Anne showed, and the more 3 dimensional ones [such as yours] with the cut "slashes" surrounding the central shou character circle. The latter cutting style seem to be pretty definitely Chinese - have never seen this molded. The Chinese, of course, are known for using lapidary techniques on glass as if it were just another type of stone.
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Posted by: barbcrafter Post Reply
04/24/2019, 16:31:32
My husband makes lampwork beads and loves glass. He was able to look at the beads in good light today. He saw bubbles on the inside and wanted to pass along that he thought it was a great suggestion on the forum to look for bubbles.
He thinks the beads are glass. He said they could be carved, but still is not 100% sure. He is still working on that part.
Thanks again for all the help and info!
Barbara
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