Post Message Search Overview RegisterLoginAdmin
Turquoise
Post Reply Edit View All Forum
Posted by: Frenchjet Post Reply
11/29/2015, 08:42:28

Is there a foolproof method of distinguishing natural turquoise from imitations out in the "field"? I seem to have tripped up quite a few times and have ended up with perhaps dyed howlite or whatever!

Frenchjet

Modified by Frenchjet at Sun, Nov 29, 2015, 08:45:28

Copyright 2024
All rights reserved by Bead Collector Network and its users
As Uncle Russ used to say, "No turquoise was harmed in the production of these beads...."
Re: Turquoise -- Frenchjet Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
11/29/2015, 09:00:03

Referring to magnesite and various imitators. There is no easy to explain set of guidelines. See, touch, handle as many examples as possible over a long period of time and it becomes easier for sure.

For antique Tibetan material, look for rich deep color and all sorts of variations that don't happen with newer stabilized material. Look for wear at the ends and holes from being worn and used for generations.

Feel the weight - the cheap imitations are generally a lot lighter.

Magnesite often has a weird contrived-looking matrix like pattern, and those patterns generally appear suspiciously brownish.

And along the way you will encounter plenty of "knowledgeable" vendors who will assure you that their product is genuine. Every time I look I can find stuff masquerading as turquoise, from plastic block, to dyed howlite and magnesite. Searching this site will yield many past conversations.

Not always possible, of course, but breaking a bead is always literally revealing.

Super-lapidary Danny Lopacki participates here, perhaps he can chime in....I have only "scratched the surface"!



Copyright 2024
All rights reserved by Bead Collector Network and its users
Re: As Uncle Russ used to say, "No turquoise was harmed in the production of these beads...."
Re: As Uncle Russ used to say, "No turquoise was harmed in the production of these beads...." -- Joyce Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Frenchjet Post Reply
11/29/2015, 15:55:08

Thank you! I'll bear all this in mind.

Frenchjet

Copyright 2024
All rights reserved by Bead Collector Network and its users
Re: Re: As Uncle Russ used to say, "No turquoise was harmed in the production of these beads...."
Re: Re: As Uncle Russ used to say, "No turquoise was harmed in the production of these beads...." -- Frenchjet Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Frenchjet Post Reply
12/04/2015, 04:44:49

Just one more thing. Is the colour anything to go by? For example when you see the dyed bamboo coral, it is such a lurid colour that probably does not even exist in mediterranean coral. So is the colour of the "turquoise" material a giveaway?

Frenchjet

Copyright 2024
All rights reserved by Bead Collector Network and its users
I'd say price is the best determinant - if it's not expensive, watch out
Re: Re: Re: As Uncle Russ used to say, "No turquoise was harmed in the production of these beads...." -- Frenchjet Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
12/04/2015, 11:38:04

And if it is expensive, then consider that it may have been Zachery treated.

http://www.turquoiseguide.com/articles/turquoise/turquoise-basics/treated-turquoise.htm


Related link: Turquoise treatments

Copyright 2024
All rights reserved by Bead Collector Network and its users
Info on Zachery treatment from GIA lab
Re: Re: Re: As Uncle Russ used to say, "No turquoise was harmed in the production of these beads...." -- Frenchjet Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
12/04/2015, 14:00:58

It's a PDF:

http://image1.fmgstatic.com/pdf/The-Identification-of-Zachery-Treated-Turquoise.pdf


Related link: http://image1.fmgstatic.com/pdf/The-Identification-of-Zachery-Treated-Turquoise.pdf

Copyright 2024
All rights reserved by Bead Collector Network and its users
Re: Info on Zachery treatment from GIA lab
Re: Info on Zachery treatment from GIA lab -- beadiste Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Frenchjet Post Reply
12/08/2015, 09:09:24

Thank you so much! I will do my research.

Frenchjet

Copyright 2024
All rights reserved by Bead Collector Network and its users


Forum     Back