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An interesting recent kiffa arrival. Opinions needed!!!
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Posted by: claudian Post Reply
08/03/2006, 08:22:54

Just received this kiffa, which appears to have signs of Oulata origin. I'm am a liitle concerned about the new-looking appearance and the thinly applied blue glass over a white core, and wonder if perhaps this bead is a modern copy. The bead is fairly large, being 15mmx11mm. Any comments about this bead would really be helpful! Thanks-Steve

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Posted by: claudian Post Reply
08/03/2006, 08:23:32

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My honest opinion....
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Posted by: TASART Post Reply
08/03/2006, 08:48:05

I looked at this bead on the African Beads and Memory site and I immediately felt it was newer. Before I saw the size what appeared wrong was the "raised" design, it looks as though it was an afterthought and it doesn't appear to have been fired with the firing that created the blue layer (blue layer over-fired, decor under-fired), this led me to believe it was not a genuine older Kiffa. The blue color and consitency is also "off" a bit from the norm. And last but not least is the size, a little too big in my opinion! The technique is nice though and for a "newer" bead is very well made, I haven't seen similar in design, so I will venture to guess that this may be an attempt to create something alot nicer than the typical run of the mill tourist Kiffas.....still a little hope for the art form!

Thomas



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Oh and......
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Posted by: TASART Post Reply
08/03/2006, 08:56:52

I wonder why the "mini Morfia" AKF103 hasen't sold yet? It's a little aged but intact and very nice craftsmanship


Related link: mini morfia....Kiffa bead

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re: the mini morfia--it has sold now....Thanks for your opinion on the blue..
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Posted by: claudian Post Reply
08/03/2006, 09:18:41



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I really like that one! Good choice!
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Posted by: TASART Post Reply
08/03/2006, 09:21:33



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Re: I really like that one! Good choice! But I can't buy 'em ALL!!!
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Posted by: claudian Post Reply
08/03/2006, 09:30:20

And I wonder why you held off? I know, you have STRAND of them--lol. sm



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A few Kiffa beads in the Morfia style
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Posted by: TASART Post Reply
08/03/2006, 10:06:17

Steve I wanted it but the cost kept me away, I know I'll kick myself in the future but at least it got a good home!
I love this type of Kiffa, I love the Morfias......
here is my meager assortment of this type, I happened to find a crummy shot of them.

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You and your connections!!! You already know how jealous I am!!!! But it's a
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Posted by: claudian Post Reply
08/03/2006, 10:12:45

benign jealousy, of course! I knew at least a small strand was coming! Steve



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But the one you just got.....
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Posted by: TASART Post Reply
08/03/2006, 10:19:35

Is a super fine example, it would look good with my mini strand! See......... now I'm jealous....auspiciously!



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thanks--for all I know I might even have another one. My eyes kind of...
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Posted by: claudian Post Reply
08/03/2006, 10:43:09

...glaze over in wonder when I look at all my kiffa together, and there is an "enjoyment disadvantage" to having them strung I think, not being able to pick them up individually. Do you have that problem? If I had as many as you I would have a Chernobyl-style meltdown!!Steve



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OK here is how I do it.....
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Posted by: TASART Post Reply
08/03/2006, 11:02:50

I put samples of all the different types in rows, then I go down the rows 'till I find something close, like here for instance row 4 has some that look like Morfias........................Internal beeding is common when trying to find a special design amongst the masses.....:)

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eyes glaze over, blood pressure drops. Of all the beads in the picture...
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Posted by: claudian Post Reply
08/03/2006, 11:09:05

..I bet you can't guess which one I would steal if I was a thief!! One just jumped out at me, but it's an emotional thing. Steve



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let's guess.................
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Posted by: TASART Post Reply
08/03/2006, 11:18:37

3rd row from the top, either 2nd from left or 3rd from right? or maybe 9 rows from top 3rd from the right?



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Re: let's guess.........you are GOOD!.., and know my taste..3rd from right....
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Posted by: claudian Post Reply
08/03/2006, 11:24:34

..is the ONE! I have one I think with that pattern and cherish it! Of course coming in a close second were any of the ones with the concentric eyes! Steve



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that's in the third row..third from right.
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Posted by: claudian Post Reply
08/03/2006, 11:26:21



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...just one....???...you are so sober....and Thomas, I would like to....
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Posted by: wantke uwe Post Reply
08/03/2006, 11:26:52

....borrow your time-machine.....



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the machine is only memories......fond of course!
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Posted by: TASART Post Reply
08/03/2006, 11:41:46

I'm sorry for the out of focus.......the wide picture contains some of my favorite small rounds!

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singled out!
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Posted by: claudian Post Reply
08/03/2006, 11:44:48

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Re: OK here is how I do it..... I,m posting from the hospital and-----
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Posted by: adjichristine Post Reply
08/03/2006, 13:19:20

Thomas, I'm sending you the bill!!! Rules of the forum is that you give a warning for those faint of heart before you post a mass of Kiffas and anything else outstanding!! AHHHHHHHH, my heart!!!!



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