i'd like to see the holes, of course...

They don't look Venetian to me either...noting the character of the red/white trails on the beads Rosanna posted, looking like "softer" glass. In person the differences between these and the beads they are imitating would be obvious/numerous, I imagine. I wrote the seller to ask where they are being made...but I'd support Indonesian unless convinced otherwise.

I saw them while searching and they stood out to me as different. They are too perfect. The versions I own are much more sloppily made. I was going to criticize the blue/white and pink/white dots but they are equally blurry on my Venetian versions as they are on the beads in question.

I agree abut needing to see the holes. They just seem too well made, but perhaps the were the best examples that could be found.

Joyce shows some other Indonesian beads, yes? If the seller sells those too I would think all the beads are Indonesian. If the seller carries odd items seemingly from estate sales, I would consider the possibility they could be Venetian.

I try to consider the seller's other items when purchasing, as well as the actual item.