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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
04/05/2015, 10:41:51

A bead friend recently got a group of green chevrons, about 20 mm diameter x 28 mm long, at an antique mall in Oregon. She is looking for information about them.

I think I know where they were made, but I'd appreciate any comments from people who have lots more experience than I do with chevrons.

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Chinese ... I think late 1990's ???
Re: Chevron ID request -- Rosanna Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Dog Bone Crazy Post Reply
04/05/2015, 11:41:08



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Myth that just won't die...
Re: Chevron ID request -- Rosanna Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
04/05/2015, 12:45:52

And those with the least understanding of chevron history are the most staunch supporters.

In past discussions, these were associated with a source in the midwest, Ohio, or "back east". I never saw them before 2007 - 2008.

A feature confirming that fact that they are not authentic 7L Venetians is the very bright red layer. The red layer in genuine 7L Venetian chevrons is a very dark brick red, very different. Production of 7L chevrons ended in Venice in the early 1700s, and the bright red wasn't used in Venetian glass beads until the early 1900s. The red on the beads in question may even be translucent - confirming Chinese production.

The perforations on these beads in question are very inconsistent, sometimes huge. The outside texture on them is consistently matte, as if they were all finished together (not matte from wear).

And, if these were authentic 7L Venetians from the 16th - 18th century, examples would beyond a doubt be seen in Picard volume 7.

They may have been made on custom request to emulate the old 7L Venetian chevrons, with irregular shapes, matte finish and "wonky" star molded layers.

Then there's the price/value issue...though some argue the validity of price, No One is going to let antique 7L Venetian greens go for a song. One authentic one the size of these beads shown is worth close to 2,000.00 now. Wonder what the owner paid in the Or. antique shop - I'd pay 20.00 for one as an example to put in my Chinese chevron pile.

I agree with Russ' thoughts in 2008 (read that whole thread from 2008).
He thought they were earlier versions of the Chinese chevron, from a different shop than the ones that flooded the market in 2006 -2007.

Here are Rick's images from the 2008 thread.

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Related link: Old Bead or New Breed / 2008
Modified by Joyce at Sun, Apr 05, 2015, 13:34:44

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Re: Myth that just won't die...
Re: Myth that just won't die... -- Joyce Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: beaddan Post Reply
04/11/2015, 12:16:12

China made repo small batch. But Great beads.

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Re: Re: Myth that just won't die... -- beaddan Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
04/11/2015, 12:31:24

Dan,

If you find a moment, can you please list some on the classifieds? I'm sure there are others besides myself who would like to own a couple of examples...

I've asked you a couple of questions in a private email, perhaps you feel comfortable posting answers...

Thank you for your post here!



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Thanks Dan - another bead mystery solved!
Re: Re: Myth that just won't die... -- beaddan Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
04/11/2015, 21:09:53



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wonky seven layers
Re: Chevron ID request -- Rosanna Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Art Post Reply
04/08/2015, 18:42:32

I still stand by my remarks from the older thread. They are too wonky for Chinese. These seem to have been sourced once then dried up. I once heard out in Indiana that they may have come from an Indonesian source. The chinese were better than this before and after these came out. All the canes were lumpy and the grinds too. Perhaps an attempt to emulate age. Still a mystery ………
but then everyone loves a mystery



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