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Posted by: Frederick II Post Reply
05/01/2016, 15:37:37

There are many ways to define a "bead." Here are just a few definitions. Do you agree?

bead
[beed]

noun
1. A SMALL, usually round object of glass, wood, stone, or the like with a hole through it, often strung with others of its kind in necklaces, rosaries, etc.

2. Beads. A necklace of beads: You don't have your beads on this evening. A rosary -obsolete. devotions; prayers.

3. Any SMALL globular or cylindrical body.

4. A drop of liquid: beads of moisture.

5. A bubble rising through effervescent liquid.

6. Usually, beads. a mass of such bubbles on the surface of a liquid.

7. The front sight of a rifle or gun.

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Verb (used with object):
14. To form or cause to form beads or a bead on.

15. To ornament with beads.

16. Carpentry. to form a bead on (a piece). verb (used without object)

17. To form beads; form in beads or drops: perspiration beading on his forehead.

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Idioms
18. Count /say /tell one's beads, to say one's prayers, using rosary beads: There were a few old women counting their beads in the hushed silence of the chapel.

19. Draw /get a bead on, to take careful aim at: The marksman drew a bead on his target.



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When is a bead too big and too heavy to be called a bead?
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Never too big, we are just a bit small- see Men-an-Tol, in Cornwall, UK
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Posted by: Stefany Post Reply
05/01/2016, 23:36:37

search, or try this link

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Men-an-Tol, in Cornwall, UK
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Posted by: judy Post Reply
05/04/2016, 15:52:36

Hi Stefany, I've been there! One of my most cherished memories is hiking across the moors and fields with my mother, water dripping off our hair from the mists. We found a lot of ancient stones but the Men-an-Tol are special because the donut shaped stone gives off magnetic impulses that can be measured. It is said that a climb through the hole can cure athritis. We both got down and climbed through. didn't work though, we just got muddy. Thanks for jogging my memories.



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That is awesome!
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05/04/2016, 22:45:47



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Re: When is a bead too big and too heavy to be called a bead? -- Frederick II Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: nishedha Post Reply
05/02/2016, 01:56:19

Beads may be as large as a world, if we are to believe the XV century Indian poet and mystic Kabir:
"Within the Supreme Brahma, the worlds are being told like beads:
Look upon that rosary with the eyes of wisdom."

Or smaller than the tiniest: couldn't subatomic particles be said to be beads in their own right?

To open in wonder our beady eyes at Reality is not a silly passtime.

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the beads in my collection must have a hole, to be threadable ...
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Posted by: Stefany Post Reply
05/02/2016, 04:37:33



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Right!
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Posted by: nishedha Post Reply
05/02/2016, 06:48:34

The worlds (in their beady avatar) are reportedly threaded on the thread of love.



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ah yes...
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Posted by: Stefany Post Reply
05/02/2016, 14:09:40



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Posted by: lopacki Post Reply
05/02/2016, 08:25:51

I think this Art bead is a bit too big for wearing. I took this image when our granddaughter was just a pup. Love the bead and love the granddaughter.

All my best .......... Danny

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lovely picture Danny, here's mine
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Posted by: Judy Post Reply
05/02/2016, 18:36:37

an ancient clay whistle with perforations for stringing. Bead or whistle? I would love to have skin like Danny's grandaughter!
cheers, Judy

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It has a hole and was on a string, bead?
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Posted by: hans Post Reply
05/05/2016, 07:09:38

This was a bottleneck in a West African necklace. Cool or not?

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Search for Yap Money
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Posted by: hans Post Reply
05/05/2016, 08:40:30

On the island Yap they are not afraid of pickpockets!
Do a small search on internet with the tag Yap money, pictures. Astonishing

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Brilliant- they must have had contact with the very ancient inhabitants of Cornwall, UK
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05/07/2016, 09:00:53



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lamp stems and napkin rings
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Posted by: birdi Post Reply
05/05/2016, 22:33:41

I've seen some very large beads recently in home decor items. One was a lamp with 4 or 5 very large round beads stacked on the stem. The others were large glass rings that have large holes and sold as napkin rings.



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Posted by: Karlis Post Reply
05/07/2016, 15:11:34

Most dictionaries and people agree that a "bead" is a SMALL object with a central hole or holes which makes it suitable for stringing. If the hole is offset, the object is a pendant. If such an item is too heavy to be worn comfortably, it likely did not serve as an adornment but some other function. Of course, there are the huge beads worn by elephants in Asia so one has to also consider the size of the wearer when one debates whether a perforated object may be considered a "bead."



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Scroll through this link to my exposition
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05/07/2016, 22:51:08


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Re: Didn't Beck define a pendant as a bead type?
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Posted by: Frederick II Post Reply
05/08/2016, 00:27:33


Posted by: Beadman
02/24/2009, 01:48:21

"In his still-significant "Classification of Beads and Pendants" (1928), Beck said that pendants are essentially beads with off-center perforations, that facilitate their use as hanging objects typically incorporated into constructions that are most often beads. Pendants are specialized beads.
The idea that "anything with a hole in it is or can be a 'bead'" is nonsense—not to say very unhelpful as well. There are billions of holed things that are not beads (to say the least).

Beads are essentially elements of personal adornment, and range in size from very small to very large—IN RELATION TO the size of the human body. (Beads are also amuletic—though I will mostly ignore this aspect in this monologue, to remain reasonably brief.) Something too small to be seen is most likely not a bead—whether perforated or not. The "too large" phenomenon is more difficult, because some extant beads are remarkably large, and some initially might presume that these are too large to have been worn by anyone—though in fact there are MANY examples of personal adornment (not just beads) that seem gigantic in relation to the size of a regular person. Then, we have the issue of beads made for monumental statues and as architectural features that are clearly based upon wearable beads (as I showed here in December, on a Tibetan temple). And, before we leave this area, let's recall that beads, as amulets, are also worn by animals, and placed in homes and vehicles (for protective and decorative functions).

So that is the issue of functionality—that beads perform the object of being personal adornments (but are also apotropaic amulets). Nevertheless, the issue of beadwork (a phenomenon I tend to separate from other beads), can be looked upon as crossing the line from adornment to decoration—because many beadwork constructions are "art"—intended to be placed on a wall or pedestal (or whatever), and do not decorate people nor animals, per se.

It can be said that there are "true beads," and "functional beads." A functional bead is a perforated object of some material that can be adapted to the use of any typical (or nontypical) bead usage. If I buy 1,000 brass washers at the hardware store, I can use these "as beads" by placing them into a necklace construction (and have, many times)—though they remain brass washers. But their context makes it germane to think of these things as "beads." (I am famous, or perhaps infamous for making necklaces that use non-beady things in necklace designs.)

There are MANY "beadlike" objects that are not beads. This forces us to "take a stand" and decide what we will accept a "a bead," and what should or will be excluded. From 5,000 years ago, the perforated cylinder seal is essentially a bead, and was most likely worn on the body. Nevertheless, my good friend Dr. Robert Liu has expressed the opinion that "these are not beads"—because they have a specific function (acting as seals). How about the ojime from Japan? These are used specifically to hold the cords that close and secure an inro emsemble—typically a box (the inro) and the netsuke (a kind of toggle suspended from the obi/sash) worn with a traditional kimono (robe) in Japan. Some would say these are not "beads"—though presently they are mostly worn in necklaces as beads. Likewise, the spindle whorl is a VERY "beadlike" object, that has a specific function, and technically may not be a "bead." However, I believe (based on nothing but my guts) that weavers and other fiber artisans MAY have worn whorls as beads (in antiquity). In part, I think this because so many of them are beautifully made—well beyond what's necessary for their intrinsic function. For sure, nowadays, many people wear them as "beads."

But when a perforated object can be shown to have some specific function that is not "beady" a case can be made that it is not "a bead," but rather is the thing that it is. At Peter Francis' site (www.thebeadsite.com), he has a page where these issues are discussed and illustrated, and he even composed a "quiz" to make these points, based on the identification of such objects. We recently discussed mace-heads—which, as I said, I have long documented because they are so beadlike (and beautifully made).

Not only are not all perforated objects beads, but not all beads are perforated (!). This was originally a hard one for me to wrap my brain around. However, with some logical discourse with Peter Francis, and some contemplation, I came to concede that an item that was made to function as an element of personal adornment, though it has no perforation can be "a bead." In parts of the world (including from a very long time ago and respecting various levels of technology), there may have been no reasonable way to perforate an object intended to be strung together with others to form personal adornments (the basic definition of "beads"). These items were sometimes grooved so that a string could be wrapped around them (and tied) for suspension. Some were just notched. As there is no specific and separate name for these things, they are "beads" for want of a name.

Ultimately, a pendant, being an object of personal adornment, usually or often combined with beads, often or usually made from the same materials and via the same skills and techniques as beads, IS a bead. I do not think this is a controversial proposition, at all.

By the way, I have said all of the above MANY times over the years, in lectures, in consulting, in articles—and even here. This represents my slant on the issue, from as early as ca. 1980—from the standpoint of being a hands-on working artist specializing in beads and beadwork, and as an historian and a conceptual theorist."

Jamey



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05/08/2016, 06:02:50

I just came to say hello...

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