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Some hard to find cloisonne beads - a question for Frederick
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
12/05/2014, 14:37:52

After watching online auctions for almost two years now, I've only found two collections of these little oval beads. These were strung on tigertail with a Taiwan cloisonne barrel clasp, so I felt no compunction in disassembling it and matching up the beads.

They're small - about 10.5 x 8.5mm

A different set of small ovals are still intact in a necklace of matching tigereye ovals, which can be seen here:
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Frederick - were these the type of beads you were selling in the early 1970s?

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Posted by: Frederick II Post Reply
12/05/2014, 18:36:55

Dear Chris,

I was tired of cloisonné by the time the tiny ones came out. So I did not handle them.

I started with the larger ones with dragons, fish and birds; these were available for about six months. And for me, cloisonné sold well for about a year. Then -as the Chinese are prone to do- the market became flooded with floral pattern cloisonné beads. I had long stopped handling them by the time the American wholesale price dropped from five dollars to fifty cents each. Collecting contemporary cloisonné quickly became redundant.

Just Fred



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I see. Cheap and no cachet. Too bad you didn't keep samples. Were they like these?
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
12/06/2014, 12:07:12

Kathleen's fish, bat, lotus, and blossom beads.

Although round, they seem very similar to the oval beads pictured in Arthur & Grace Chu's 1975 book Oriental Cloisonne and Other Enamels, so presumably are from the early 1970s?

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Re: I see. Cheap and no cachet. Too bad you didn't keep samples. Were they like these? -- beadiste Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
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12/06/2014, 15:56:16



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Sphere machine for round cloisonne beads - Danny?
Re: Some hard to find cloisonne beads - a question for Frederick -- beadiste Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
12/05/2014, 20:17:27

Recently had some correspondence from someone who fled from Shanghai to Taiwan in 1950, sold cloisonne and porcelain there for 10 years before moving to the U.S.

He relates:
"As I remember Taiwan made a lot of cloisonne beads about 30+ years ago. At that time Taiwan cloisonne makers invented a simple machine to polish the beads. They can polish many beads in one time by using 2 iron disc with many holes, one on top and one on bottom, the hole size is the same as beads, using motor to polish them. The machine polish makes beautiful beads."

30 years ago is the 1980s, of course.

The Beijing cloisonne beads that seem older show evidence of hand polishing on the same sort of electric machine the workshops use to polish vases, bottles, etc. It used to be done on a foot-pedaled wooden frame. At any rate, the machine spins the piece against the abrasives held in hand or on sticks. So it leaves parallel polishing rings, like the lines of latitude on globe. Another chapter in the long and harrowing saga of piecework?



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