Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
10/29/2014, 08:46:47
Thanks so much Danny for posting these images. I have always been a fan of turquoise but now realize I may never have seen real turquoise in any of my jewelry, either bought or made myself.
I am also wondering if in the future there will be anyone that will be able to identify the various real stones. Hope there are gem and mineral museums, societies, etc that will preserve the specialized knowledge!
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Posted by: lopacki Post Reply
10/29/2014, 16:59:02
Rosanna,
Fortunately for me I met people that had and sold mid-range to highest grade domestic turquoise a bit prior to my bailing out in 1978 to make my fame and fortune as a lapidary/jeweler. Because of this I got to see rough turquoise from the majority of the mines in Nevada/Arizona even stone that had not been mined for some years. I have been blessed with a real eye for stone so when I was offered rough stone to pick I usually ended up with the best in that batch. When I used this stone I made it a point to stash the best, always used very good stone just stashed the best. My knowledge of turquoise is the main reason that I ended up in China in 1987. To answer your question about the future and people being able to identify stone form the various mines. Unless someone has seen a large variety of material from each different mine from low quality to the highest grade, it would be almost impossible to say without a doubt this is from mine A and not mine B. There will be people that know some mines but as time passes most turquoise identification will be a somewhat uneducated guess. One thing that my stashing has done for Suzi and I is it gave us a pretty good retirement stash.
I have had a saying for years “better rocks than stocks” this has proven to be true as the value of quality turquoise has escalated so much in the past five years it amazes me. This is one of the reasons I am now cutting the highest grade and the rarest. I was told by a good friend that Indian Mountain is priceless at this time he said that it was more sought after Bisbee which has always been one of the top turquoise on the market. Regarding your personal turquoise, I would guess most of it is real turquoise in the mid range. Most jewelry you see does not have gem turquoise in it. I have posted two new images, one is of a bracelet I made in the mid nineties, this piece walked into our room at Tucson last year and it was for sale, I think I got it for about what it originally sold for, for sure the person had no clue as to what they had. This bracelet is a pretty good catalog of the high grade Chinese turquoise we were buying from 1987 to 1989. The other is an image of one of my most treasured Chinese turquoise cabochons. All my best ...... Danny
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Posted by: rubyzane Post Reply
10/29/2014, 10:20:25
This is great. Those are both so beautiful & the color on the 2nd piece of turquoise is glorious. The fact that it is completely natural just amazes me. Looking forward to your future lessons! Lynne
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Posted by: karavanserai Post Reply
10/29/2014, 11:22:18
Thank you Danny! I am a real turquoise addict, and don't have that many opportunities to see good and natural stones/beads.
Looking forward to lesson nr 2,3,4,5,....
martine
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Posted by: abhaya Post Reply
10/31/2014, 21:14:18
Yuan or Ming Chinese Turquoise
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11/01/2014, 01:42:55
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
10/29/2014, 11:41:17
just did a Google search on the terms "gemological institute turquoise identification," and trawled up these interesting items: The Image search, with all sorts of intriguing links to follow: https://www.google.com/search?q=gemological+institute+turquoise+identification&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=xTJRVN3bI5axogS03YC4BQ&ved=0CEcQsAQ GIA report on untreated turquoise with human fingerprints:
http://www.gia.edu/gems-gemology/FA13-LN-fingerprint-pattern-turquoise A flyover of common gem treatments - includes some interesting coral photos as well
http://www.gia.edu/gem-treatment
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10/29/2014, 11:45:55
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Posted by: Luann Udell Post Reply
11/02/2014, 15:19:01
I've just spent half an hour exploring your two links. Once again, I'm amazed and grateful to Russ for his generous contributions, not just to this forum but for all who want to learn more about semi-precious stones. He compiled this in...April?? An amazing man.
Luann Udell
artist & writer
Ancient stories retold in modern artifacts
LuannUdell.com
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
11/02/2014, 20:34:15
There was only one Russ. I can still hear him laugh!
This is, I believe, the last set of posts that Russ did......
Related link: Russ on stones
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
10/29/2014, 11:54:34
http://www.nevadagem.com/pages/turquoise.html Plus, you can buy beads from them (nuggets, not nearly as sweet as Danny's carved beads) - just to give some idea of market prices. http://nevadagem.com/pages/categorypages/turqbeads.html
Related link: http://www.nevadagem.com/pages/turquoise.html
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Posted by: Sallie Post Reply
11/01/2014, 06:09:47
Hope its not another of my silly questions. It was not answered last time. I am posting a picture of my turquoise beads with bubbles on them. The beads are soaking in tap water. Would anyone know why this happens? Is it due to the dye, paraffin or other treatment? The beads are not expensive and from China so I guess they are not genuine. But I can't find any information on turquoise with bubbles and wonder if it happens to any other collectors turquoise ? Hope lopacki or other turquoise collectors can comment. Thank you so much for looking. Sallie
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11/05/2014, 04:42:33
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Posted by: alipersia Post Reply
11/07/2014, 05:30:42
hi there
i try again to send turqise pictures.hope this time work.
thx Danny for this topic.as i told before we have also turquoise in our shop.thses are samples of some middle quality persian turqoise which is now availabe in market.
be well
Ali
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Posted by: lopacki Post Reply
11/07/2014, 07:52:43
Ali,
I have always liked Persian turquoise and am glad to see that they are still finding and cutting it into beautiful cabochons. It is my understanding that for many years this was the best turquoise you could purchase until the U.S. domestic turquoise came on the market. Thank you for posting these images. All my best ......... Danny
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11/07/2014, 09:23:49
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Posted by: alipersia Post Reply
11/07/2014, 09:27:04
sorry for the poor quality of photos.
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