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Posted by: redmountain Post Reply
08/01/2013, 04:55:14

Hello friends

The followings are photos from my recent trip to west china

Hope you enjoy

R.M.


1 Yellow river between shanxi & shaanxi prov.

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2 Broken jade disk found nearby
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08/01/2013, 05:01:43

Broken jade disk of warring states period to early Han found nearby

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3 local snack of north shaanxi
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08/01/2013, 05:11:18

chairman mao must like this

Goat Knuckle

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4 Shrine Yanan
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08/01/2013, 05:13:43

nothing to say

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5 you have bakery well we have "steamery"
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Posted by: redmountain Post Reply
08/01/2013, 05:17:03

local Mantou store
some village near Qingyang

have you noticed one missed
I got it

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Delicious Man-tou, I love it.
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08/04/2013, 00:57:47



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6 Big mountains between Ningxia and Gansu prov.
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Posted by: redmountain Post Reply
08/01/2013, 05:22:55

getting into Liupan mountain which located between Ningxia and Gansu prov.s

maybe translated as six circle mountain in english

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7 two small terra cotta buddist tsatsa
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Posted by: redmountain Post Reply
08/01/2013, 05:28:06

collected in city Guyuan ningxia prov.

northern zhou period 557581AD

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8 an old street trumpet player
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08/01/2013, 05:31:47

Dingxi city gansu prov.

not very skilled...

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9 Historical museum of Gansu prov.
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Posted by: redmountain Post Reply
08/01/2013, 05:39:05

really alot of interesting things...

a wonderful day

for example the mace heads

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10 Bronze plate-shaped chariot wheel? decoration
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Posted by: redmountain Post Reply
08/01/2013, 05:47:18

collected near Lanzhou city the capital of gansu prov.

the other two are from the museum
similar function

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Posted by: sallie Post Reply
08/01/2013, 05:58:58

thank you red mountain for the pics. Makes me homesick for another visit to China !

Sallie



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Posted by: redmountain Post Reply
08/01/2013, 06:46:39

you are welcome sallie

amazing place and amazing people...




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11 Tea Meat and Noodles the best things for a traveler
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Posted by: redmountain Post Reply
08/01/2013, 05:59:13

Famous local fast food of wuwei city west Gansu prov.

the tea with Chinese jujube in it tastes very good

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how was food?
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Posted by: tofsla Post Reply
08/01/2013, 19:57:20

I find quality and taste of street food in China bad. What you think



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I loved Chinese streetfood
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Posted by: floorkasp Post Reply
08/02/2013, 00:47:11

I travelled in China several times, and think there are few places with better streetfood.

So, some pictures (no beads.....)
First is in Kashgar, Western China. It may not look like much (or very hygienic) but it was one of the best tasting meals I ever had. A potato cooked in some type of curry broth, boiled egg, strings of a root vegetable and different spices and flavours added.

Second was my staple afternoon snack: Yoghurt in Beijing, in beautiful earthenware pots. They are supposed to be drunk straight away, and you can not take the pot with you. However, I made a 'deal' with a vendor that I could pay a little extra, and take the pot home. In my house, I now have about 15 of these great looking Beijing yoghurt pots.

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Liked the street food and My Yoghurt container
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Posted by: lopacki Post Reply
08/02/2013, 09:35:43

I also found many places in my travels in China circa 1987-1997 on the street that had what I thought was wonderful food. One time we were in a town that had a gentleman on the street with a fifty gallon drum that was lined with some kind of refractory with a coal fire in it, he would take a flattened out piece of dough and slap it onto the hot refractory and a minute or two later pull it off, every time we went past this person we bought more of his bread, it was wonderful.

Below is an image of a Yoghurt container that I got in Beijing in 1988 that I now use as a pencil holder in my smithing bench. At the time I got it they had a deposit of less than one cent so needless to say I did not return it for the deposit. I am glad to see that they are still using the earthenware as the last time I had some of this wonderful yoghurt it was in a plastic container.

All my best ..... Danny

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They are still looking for the one you TOOK away
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08/04/2013, 07:56:50



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what I think
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Posted by: redmountain Post Reply
08/02/2013, 20:30:15

well I think maybe the best street food for you in china is KFC or Mcdonald...



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100% agree!
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Posted by: tofsla Post Reply
08/02/2013, 22:27:09

McD and KFC



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If you eat this it will kill you!!
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Posted by: lopacki Post Reply
08/03/2013, 13:04:38



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well well.. i rather have processes McD or KFC then rat meat they sell on streets
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08/04/2013, 04:46:57



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Rat meat is good meat. It depends on the culture's point of view.
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08/04/2013, 07:12:36



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And whether you've had one as a pet.
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
08/04/2013, 11:02:59

I'm gonna run right along with you on this digression, it's fun once in awhile!

Never had rat meat......but let me tell a little story...

During the summers when our son was 6 - 7 years old, he loved to catch crawdads (like freshwater lobster) in the creek very near our house. He'd put water into a bucket, and dangle salami on a string down from the little bridge.......the lucky crawdads that hung on got plopped into the bucket, and counted as they were released back to the creek at the end of the fishing session.

Well, one day there were 4 tiny (and I mean less than 1/2") crawdads in the bucket when he dipped it into the creek. The babies were brought home, and kept in a freshwater tank, fed regularly. One died. One grew quickly and scared the other two, who got released back into the creek. The big guy became a domesticated pet, as close to tame as a crawdad could get. He'd reach upward to take fresh turkey burger from my fingers. He let our son gently scrub the algae off his back with an old toothbrush and fresh water. He was really quite pretty - huge and bright orange. Grandma named him "Knothead". He lived nearly 2 years. He aged very quickly at the end - his legs grew obviously weak, and his eyes clouded over, this all happened in about 2 weeks - our pet crawdad had lived his whole life cycle with us, fat and sassy. Do you think I will ever knowingly eat that sort of critter again? Nope.



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thats wonderful story Joyce
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Posted by: tofsla Post Reply
08/05/2013, 02:30:13

thats where issue with eating any living creature can bring major issues to your Karma :(... thank you for sharing!



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12 Ling Tai (Spirit platform) wuwei city
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Posted by: redmountain Post Reply
08/01/2013, 06:11:53

Where a tomb of east han was found and excavated
one of the excavations is the logo of chinese tourism.

Heaven horse stamping on a flying swallow

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Flying horse
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
08/01/2013, 07:18:55

I traveled over 2,500 miles to San Francisco in the early 80s to see an exhibit featuring this horse.

It's worth the trip.



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Great!
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08/04/2013, 08:13:35



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13 on my way to Dunhuang
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08/01/2013, 06:19:07

Dunhuang

the grotto!

I am comming

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14 Mogao grotto
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08/01/2013, 06:33:22

photograph is strictly prohibited

I only have this

my employer

and I was payed as a english tour guide

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Posted by: floorkasp Post Reply
08/02/2013, 00:53:32

I was there in 2007, and it's great to see your pictures.
Here are some of my of the same province.

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Have you found something there? :)
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08/04/2013, 08:16:37



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15 singing sand mountain and moonlike spring
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Posted by: redmountain Post Reply
08/01/2013, 06:44:05

..

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to be continued and beads will come soon
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Posted by: redmountain Post Reply
08/01/2013, 06:52:49

R.M.



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Thank you, R.M.
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
08/01/2013, 19:21:44

For this photo-journal of your trip to West China.
I always enjoy what you show us.



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Question on bead culture
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Posted by: tofsla Post Reply
08/02/2013, 22:29:37

Dear R.M.

How many people you see wearing beads? Specially old etched agates? Gzi, Chunggzi and relatives. What is demographic? Old people middle age rich or poor? etc etc...

Any information will be appreciated?

Thank you in advance



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maybe like this
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Posted by: redmountain Post Reply
08/04/2013, 06:58:21

Nowdays in china more and more people no matter rich or poor are getting interested in buddism or tibetan buddism
also people who want to find some more powerful things to protect them

etched agate bead is a good choice.
and the price could $1-$10.000.000
and people who wear them all claim the beads are old or at least powerful



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do you see them on the street? everywhere?
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Posted by: tofsla Post Reply
08/04/2013, 07:01:59

like in Tibet or Nepal you see people wear beads. old/new/fakes/real but everywhere. How about China?



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I don't think they are everywhere in china
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08/04/2013, 07:10:06



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16 Dunhuang's yellow noodles with Donkey'meat
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Posted by: redmountain Post Reply
08/04/2013, 04:39:39

nothing to say
I also very much like a kind of small local bread baked with tonco bean? powder in it.but no photo for that.

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17 Dunhuang's apricot
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08/04/2013, 04:50:30

the apricot is named after a very famous 5-star general from Han dynasty---Liguang who fought with the Hun people during the reign of Wudi.

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18 Yumen gate (jade door checkpoint) of Han dynasty
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08/04/2013, 04:57:56

several dozen kilometers from Dunhuang

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19 leaving for Qinghai Lake
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08/04/2013, 05:05:17

It takes 12 hours from dunhuang to Qinghai lake through the west part of qinghai province

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20 The best mutton I ever tried
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08/04/2013, 05:17:43

a restaurant run by local muslim of Haixi autonomous prefecture west of qinghai province

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21 The Lake in the morning
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08/04/2013, 05:38:09

a little cold

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22 Prayer
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08/04/2013, 05:46:25

prayer after fishing(poaching)

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23 Huang fish
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08/04/2013, 05:49:44

fresh & febulous

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24 You need to believe in something
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08/04/2013, 05:53:22

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WOW. thats priceless!
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Posted by: tofsla Post Reply
08/04/2013, 07:04:13

its like Thailand where they put King next to Buddha... except its Mao!!! wow!



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25 Smiling face
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08/04/2013, 05:57:44

tibetan girl
Youngmaote
her name sound like this

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26 My first strand of prayer beads
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08/04/2013, 06:08:52

rosewood with turquoise and aventurine glass beads as spacing

(different shape and different way of cutting with other strands of rosewood prayer beads)

from an old tibetan man who rent horses to the visitors
not included the coral Dorje which I got in xining the capital of qinghai and the ivory "head-bead"

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27 Beadwork of Green tara
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08/04/2013, 07:08:07

exhibition of Qinghai museum
20th centary
forgot the material

the other pic is one of the clothes of emperor Kangxi
cool

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28 Part of bead-related acquisition
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08/04/2013, 07:31:37

the red ring is of agate from Spring autume period the same age as the small turquoise bead
the crystal ring is from 11-13th century for people used as decoration on their head scarf(or be translated as a kind of hat, should be a pair, one missed)
the two eyed beads are at least Han dynasty but not glass something like glazed pottery (faience?)
one agate faceted bead with white cot
two jade belt ornaments (one heartshaped and the lower right)are from Yuan or ming dynasties.
one broken agate piece as specimen (the upper right)
a quauter of a jade pendent could be dated to at least song dynasty also as specimen.

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Bronze tube beads and ring
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Posted by: redmountain Post Reply
08/04/2013, 07:43:57

In chinese we have a word "kengkou" that means the bronzeware's birth place.

these bronze ornaments are of typical Gansu "kengkou"
and if you know the jadeware of the same period you will find they were made to simulate the jade tubes and rings which were populor among the nobles living east to Gansu in so called "central land" during the spring autume period.

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Gorgeous!
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Thank you all for your attention
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Posted by: redmountain Post Reply
08/04/2013, 07:51:03

Thank you Joyce for your insistent encouragement
most photos were taken by mobilephone so they are sure not clear enough
thanks all for your patience again

R.M.
Peking



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Thanks for showing this
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Posted by: floorkasp Post Reply
08/04/2013, 08:21:02

Just as I am reading this, I am in the middle of writing my book on Czech beads. One of the things they were known for, was copying all sorts of materials in glass, including jade. Interesting to see examples of bronze being used to imitate jade.



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Posted by: lopacki Post Reply
08/04/2013, 09:25:48

Red,
As always your thread was well worth viewing and reading. Thank you very much for this post.

All my best ......... Danny



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Quite the adventure! Have read through this fascinating account at least four times now...
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08/04/2013, 11:57:44



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Thank you for the spectacular views- great skys! and nice finds!
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Posted by: karavanserai Post Reply
08/05/2013, 02:54:31

martine

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Funny thing about shopping for beads internationally....
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Posted by: Frederick Post Reply
08/05/2013, 08:40:28

Those who have gone "into the field" shopping for precious few beads know: It really does have a lot to do about the sky, the weather, the food, and the people....

Frederick

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and for those who could find interesting beads
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Posted by: redmountain Post Reply
08/06/2013, 09:53:18

It is always a nature to find the best food for him



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Posted by: Frederick Post Reply
08/07/2013, 04:41:53

I was always very happy eating Chinese fast food in the street in Beijing. Usually it was only a dollar, warm and delicious...when one dollar was equivalent to an hour of a Chinese person's working class wages.

Frederick

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