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Posted by: dannoh40 Post Reply
04/03/2009, 17:55:11

These were in with my pumtek...so..
There some type of agate or rock like substance.
1/2" ling and 13mm wide

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Well Dan, it doesn't look pumtekish to me...
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
04/03/2009, 18:27:26

Give it a bit of time and perhaps someone can come through with a more substantial opinion than I. Please realize we have hundreds of lurkers here, and a relative few brave souls willing to post...



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Pyu Article Here
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Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
04/03/2009, 18:35:03

Hello Dannoh,

It is not so unusual in an assemblage of pumtek beads to find an older decorated agate bead among them. If you haven't read it yet, the article on Pyu beads is helpful.

Lucky you.

Jamey



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Posted by: dannoh40 Post Reply
04/03/2009, 21:18:38

Yes indeed I did read your extremly fine artical on Pyu.
I'm still not sure yet where this bead fits in as far as dating it.
Is it early PYU, mid PYUetc.
I'm assuming that as you stated,"These beads get mixed in from time to time" probubly when the dealer is having them strung. I'm sure after a while the eyes get tired and something great gets strung with the lesser value Pumtek.
I will read the artical on the Pyu again,maybe you could toss me a bone or two to chew on while I re-read your artical.
Thanks for your help...Danoh



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Re: Pumtek
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Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
04/04/2009, 01:35:24

Hi again,

Essentially, the beads we think of as pumtek were made in the 1920s in Burma. They were made because of the following:

At that time, ancient beads (not doubt beads from India and Pyu/Mon copies of those beads) were being locally dug-up by people. They probably found a factory site, because a number of unfinished beads were recovered, and these were drilled to be worn. They became quite a fad. When the supply of old beads became more or less exhausted, they began to make their own versions of the old beads. Thus, pumtek beads were born.

Consequently, we should expect that occasionally an older bead is incorporated into a pumtek necklace—because these older beads were cherished and still circulating. Some will be broken because they have knocked-around for a long time.

I don' know that anyone can say whether Pyu/Mon beads date to any specific time, or have a recognized time range. I would have to reread some of the archaeological literature to be reminded what has been suggested. I just know these beads post-date the Indianization of the region, occurring about 2000 years ago + or -.

I hope this is an enticing bone.

Jamey



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Posted by: dannoh40 Post Reply
04/04/2009, 09:11:54

Dear Jamey,
If you were a gun-slinger from the old west, there would be hundreds of songs about you.
Your willingness to help others is unquestionably the greatest in the west or anywhere in the world.
I'm chewing on a tasty bone from you right now....Thank a lot...Dannoh



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Thanks! I appreciate your kind remarks.
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Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
04/04/2009, 13:29:35



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Could it be one end of a broken agate torpedo-shaped bead repolished?
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04/04/2009, 02:18:01



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