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Posted by: nishedha Post Reply
12/23/2025, 01:00:43

Someone interested in the millefiore beads strung on this necklace is asking wether or not they are Moretti's.
I am not knowledgeable enough to give an authorized answer... but my good Karma is hopely directing my steps on the right path.

Last but not least: Happy Christmas!

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12/23/2025, 01:02:19

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Posted by: nishedha Post Reply
12/23/2025, 01:25:32

The interested lady tells me that she thinks Moretti's beads are of better workmanship than mine... but who knows?



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Some info from bead books
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
12/23/2025, 14:34:25

Here is some information about the Moretti company- it was founded in 1911 so there are no pre-1911 Moretti beads. Their heydays for beads for the African trade were the 1920s.

A quote from the book Ercole Moretti by Gianni Moretti -
"The millefiori beads produced by Ercole Moretti in this decade (1920s) are absolutely distinguishable from other beads for the accuracy of the placement of the murrine, for the choice of color and above all for the impeccable polishing."

Moretti beads with a high gloss finish are easy to identify. The glossy beads were normally made for trade outside Africa. The other distinctive surface for Moretti beads is a very smooth "eggshell" finish which is easy to ID on larger beads but not so easy on small beads.

Images of Moretti millefiori beads indeed show very precise placement of the murrine, most of the time. In this picture from Venetian Glass Beads by Giacomo De Carlo, the murrine have very distinct borders, except for the two highlighted with arrows. In the second picture, I've shown a strand with round, mixed mille beads. Some of them have these more precise borders, especially borders in white, but many do not.

I'm not sure it's possible to exactly identify Moretti beads of this kind. If I find out anything more, I'll post it.

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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
12/23/2025, 14:37:03

I didn't use my usual camera for these photos - I'll re-do them and re-post later.



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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
12/23/2025, 14:50:40

A better pic of the highlighted bead from the book page and my strand of rounds.

PS Merry Christmas Nishedha

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Thank you, Rosanna, and be happy from now on!
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Posted by: nishedha Post Reply
12/24/2025, 00:13:34



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Re: MILLEFIORI needed
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Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
12/30/2025, 14:01:29

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Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
12/30/2025, 14:18:03

In recent years I have been very active at Facebook, where I moderate five Groups, and Admin Venetian Glass Beads. I am constantly placing links to discussions here at BCN Forum. This saves me some time from having to repeat information for the millionth time--and also demonstrates that this information has existed for decades already.

In the present instance I would do the reverse. I recently posted a slew of photos of mixed-murrine millefiori beads--most made by Moretti, or via the use of Moretti murrine.

FB is very active in covering the bead world. Not just my Groups, but quite a few others.

JDA

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MILLEFIORee indeed, we will never learn!
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Posted by: nishedha Post Reply
12/30/2025, 21:34:29

Welcome back, we were eagerlee waiting for you!



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Alas!
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Posted by: nishedha Post Reply
12/31/2025, 00:18:27

Wether,or not, my millefiori are of Moretti's workmanship... this question has still not been answered!



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Now...2003 vs 2025
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Posted by: nishedha Post Reply
12/31/2025, 00:50:52

This is a necklace reincarnated: the first version was made in 2003, the second in 2025.
The millefiori, I have been told, are Moretti's.
The first one is, or at least such is my feeling, nicer... although from de POV of a bead lover, the millefiori do show better in the 2025's.
The custom-made gold drum beads were disposed of (replaced with modern Indian honest stuff) and been probably melted: times of emaciated cows!

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2003's better pic
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12/31/2025, 01:02:17

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Re: How It Goes
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Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
12/31/2025, 15:25:45

Nishedha,

The VGB Group at FB has and continues to have multiple discussions related to various millefiori beads, often including mixed-murrine beads. And whether these are "Moretti beads," or merely beads made (by someone or some business) that exploits Moretti canes. There are so many discussions, it warranted my putting them all-together. So I posted a series of links to previous discussions; followed by the Album of photos from those discussions.

Were we there now, and I remarked, "Your beads are Moretti beads," I can predict that someone will say, "Are you sure?" (casting doubt); and someone else will say "Moretti beads are more refined than these beads" (when that person is thinking about antique top beads, and not about commercial-quality beads that circulate now).

So, although I thought it was well-implied in my previous answer, I will repeat that your beads are Moretti beads.

I wish you a Great 2026!. I wish our paths would cross again, though it seems unlikely.

JDA.



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Beadman the Great, thanks.
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Posted by: nishedha Post Reply
01/01/2026, 01:43:22

My very fresh new born, posted hoping you would enjoy to see I am still operative. (Not very Christmatic, though...the center carnelian bead is worth to be looked at).)

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I like it!
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01/02/2026, 14:17:01



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Very meaningful three words, thnks
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01/04/2026, 05:55:06



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Re: Moretti Millefiori Beads
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Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
01/04/2026, 13:30:55

At my Facebook Group, Venezia 2018, I show many photos from the significant exhibit of Venetian glass beads, presented that year at the Murano Glass Museum.

Here are some photos of top Moretti millefiori beads from the 1920s.

JDA.

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01/04/2026, 13:32:00

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More moretti beads for comparison
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
01/12/2026, 21:02:00

Here's a necklace of round mixed milles - advertised as Moretti.

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Re: Moretti Beads
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Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
01/22/2026, 13:27:29

At Facebook, Venetian Glass Beads Group, we have multiple discussions over whether mixed-murrine millefiori beads were "made by Moretti," or merely "made (by some company) exploiting Moretti murrine." I'd offer here that the beads you show were made by Ercole Moretti, post ca. 1920.

And, by the way, actual Moretti family members participate at the Group.

JDA.



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Th FB groups are great resources
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
01/22/2026, 19:51:28

Too bad not everyone can take advantage of them, or wants to use FB.

I communicate with a few folks who still read the BCN posts so it's helpful to keep posting here. And directing them to the FB groups is a good idea.



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