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Posted by: Luann Udell Post Reply
10/28/2020, 19:29:26

I came across these African brass beads in my stash, but I can't remember where I got them.

I thought they were wound brass wire, but now I think they may be cast?

Two sizes, as shown. I LOVE them, and would love to find more.

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Re: African Brass Beads
Re: What are these African brass beads called and where can I get more?? -- Luann Udell Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
10/29/2020, 12:40:37

Many African brass beads are cast via the Lost Wax method. First a model of the bead is made using wax "wire" (probably around a friable core that is later removed). This is covered in slip and prepared to become a mold. The wax is melted out, and molten brass is poured in. (That's the big picture.)

I cannot tell you who made these unusually small brass beads, nor what their local name would have been. Unfortunately, this is not the sort of information that bead sellers acquire and pass along to collectors.

Plus, you know, most beads do not have names. Some have descriptions. JDA.



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Will look for more!
Re: Re: African Brass Beads -- Beadman Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Luann Udell Post Reply
10/29/2020, 13:01:50

Sad there's no easy way to find them, but I'll keep trying! And treasure the few that I have. Thank you, Jamey!

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Similar?
Re: What are these African brass beads called and where can I get more?? -- Luann Udell Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Logan Post Reply
10/29/2020, 13:58:05


Related link: http://www.picardbeads.com/trade_beads/baule52.html

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More - can't post the link, it's inside, sorry...
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Posted by: Logan Post Reply
10/29/2020, 14:05:32



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Thank you, Logan!
Re: More - can't post the link, it's inside, sorry... -- Logan Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Luann Udell Post Reply
10/29/2020, 16:13:55

I have some those strands in moth of your links. Mine are a LOT smaller, but those are both companies I've bought from in the past, and it would be a good idea to check in with them! Thank you for the inspiration!

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10/29/2020, 14:00:20



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10/29/2020, 14:04:25



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UPDATE I found some, thank you, Logan and Jamey!
Re: What are these African brass beads called and where can I get more?? -- Luann Udell Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Luann Udell Post Reply
10/31/2020, 16:22:06

I checked in with Happy Mango and Picard Beads, and Picard Beads answered within minutes, saying they had something similar!

I quickly ordered several strands.

So happy to find more! Thank you, Jamey, for the ID, and Logan for reminding me of favorite sources!!

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some examples
Re: UPDATE I found some, thank you, Logan and Jamey! -- Luann Udell Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: judy Post Reply
11/01/2020, 15:27:14

the first beads are from Nigeria and measure in length 34.7 mm to 40.3 mm.
The second picture shows beads from the Ashanti tribe in Ghana, they measure in length 31.5 mm to 40.8 mm They are all lost wax cast.

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I goofed with the pictures
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Posted by: judy Post Reply
11/01/2020, 15:30:53

these are the beads from Ghana

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Re: I goofed with the pictures BUT
Re: I goofed with the pictures -- judy Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Stefany Post Reply
11/02/2020, 01:05:40

-but its great to see an antique silver British threepenny bit!!
we used to have a Christmas tradition to bake one of these into the Christmas pudding and whoever had it in their portion would be lucky for the coming year...
the silver was pure enough not to affect the pudding,
so lets hope it brings luck for events happening this week for those of you in USA.



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Many thanks! We need all the good luck and blessings that can be mustered! :)
Re: Re: I goofed with the pictures BUT -- Stefany Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
11/02/2020, 06:21:29



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Agree wholeheartedly!
Re: Many thanks! We need all the good luck and blessings that can be mustered! :) -- Joyce Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Luann Udell Post Reply
11/02/2020, 11:11:37

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I think we used nickels in the U.S. but yours is better!
Re: Re: I goofed with the pictures BUT -- Stefany Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Luann Udell Post Reply
11/02/2020, 11:10:52

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These are beautiful! The ones I need are a lot smaller. :-)
Re: I goofed with the pictures -- judy Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Luann Udell Post Reply
11/02/2020, 11:10:06

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Exactly!
Re: These are beautiful! The ones I need are a lot smaller. :-) -- Luann Udell Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
11/05/2020, 13:52:56

The beads Luann is seeking are VERY SMALL, and quite different from any of the beads shown so far.



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Re: Exactly!
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Posted by: judy Post Reply
11/05/2020, 18:03:39

I posted the pictures to show the manufacturing technique and to show that it was used in different countries by different tribes.



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Lost-wax casting is exploited in many parts of the world.
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Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
11/09/2020, 13:29:13

It would be easier to list the places that don't exploit this process. I must have missed the photos where the manufacturing techniques are shown.



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Re: some examples/Hair Beads/Wodaabe/Tiv
Re: some examples -- judy Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: AnneLFG Post Reply
11/15/2020, 18:16:13

Bead lover, collector since Age 15, semi-retired had wholesale/retail bead, folk art, tribal art store Lost and Found Gallery for 25 yrs. in DT Greensboro, NC

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SO happy to read this, Luann!
Re: UPDATE I found some, thank you, Logan and Jamey! -- Luann Udell Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Logan Post Reply
11/06/2020, 03:46:32



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They're bigger than I wanted, but....
Re: SO happy to read this, Luann! -- Logan Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Luann Udell Post Reply
11/10/2020, 19:12:27

Same gold color, I can use them in some bigger pieces.
Still looking for more really SMALL ones.
Fortunately, Picards are keeping an eye out for me! They are wonderful to work with!

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These appear to be smaller
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Posted by: Logan Post Reply
11/13/2020, 02:17:48



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Picard Beads came through with thinner ones!
Re: These appear to be smaller -- Logan Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Luann Udell Post Reply
11/14/2020, 17:58:56

Thank you for the redirect, the ones I'm looking for are made with a finer wire, and gold-colored.

Picards reached out to me a few days ago, saying they'd found ones that were more like what I was looking for. I ordered more. They arrived today, and they are exactly what I was looking for! The larger version, but more slender in width. The ones in the pic are 1" long.

Wonderful customer service!

Now I'm keeping my fingers crossed I'll find more of the smaller ones....

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