Posted by: Hans Post Reply
05/09/2020, 00:59:02
Hi Stefany,
You meant these kind of hollow porcelain beads? Chinese I suppose.
The Chinese mitten crab (Eriocheir sinensis) seems to be a sign of luck in the Chinese community. From two he other beads, a dragon and some fruit?, I don’t know the symbolism. Do you have any idea of age and origin? I suppose they were made in a two piece gypsum mould with liquid casting porcelain clay. If enough clay has been deposited on the inside of the mold the liquid rest is poured out again, leaving a hollow inside, After some hours the leather hard clay is removed from the mould and the perforation can be made. When the beads are completely dry they get a first (biscuit) burn in the furnace. After firing the biscuit bead can be colored and get an overlay of transparent glaze and after drying again they get a second burn in the furnace.
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Posted by: Hans Post Reply
05/09/2020, 01:14:54
Size of beads: Crab right, diam 15 mm. perf 4 mm.
Crab left, diam 13 mm. perf 3 mm. Fruit, diam 13 mm. perf 3,5 mm.
Dragon, diam 15 mm. perf 3 mm.
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Posted by: stefany Post Reply
05/09/2020, 02:08:54
they are really specially interesting Hans!
I was thinking of the fairly recent chinese beads, not graduated, made into short necklaces in relatively recent years
if these images get through there is a whole bunch of the modern chinese ones loose, and an image of hollow porcelain beads which i feel are European perhaps contemporary with the sample card ones that Floor showed
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Posted by: stefany Post Reply
05/09/2020, 02:22:48
made in Poland in a pottery factory a few years ago... they are also hollow...
each has a paper label with the logo of the company-
the beads appear to be "sponge printed"..
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Posted by: Hans Post Reply
05/09/2020, 05:12:19
No, I have never seen them. Nice made!
What you call "sponge print" is in dutch mentioned as "tampon print".
The design is offset print on a very soft rubber cushion that's so flexible it can be pressed on odd objects.
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05/09/2020, 05:25:02
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Posted by: Stefany Post Reply
05/09/2020, 06:32:14
Hans-
Your examples appear individually made and decorated with glaze by hand -
How small are they, and do you know if they were part of a set of animals representing months or years, or something unique?
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Posted by: Hans Post Reply
05/09/2020, 09:15:45
Hi Stefany
I mentioned the size in a message following under my first reaction as "Size beads", but here they are again: Size of beads:
Crab right, diam 15 mm. perf 4 mm.
Crab left, diam 13 mm. perf 3 mm. Fruit, diam 13 mm. perf 3,5 mm.
Dragon, diam 15 mm. perf 3 mm. I think they were not part of the Chinese zodiac, because the fruit and crab don't belong in there.
I rather think that drawings on the beads are good fortune signs. stay healthy, Hans
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05/09/2020, 11:02:09
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05/09/2020, 06:32:43
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Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
05/24/2020, 14:03:53
I collected some antique and modern Chinese porcelain beads, in San Francisco, in the late 1970s and since then. However, a few years ago I acquired a substantial collection of them—that I immediately micro-photograped, taking two to four photos of each bead, around its circumference. I also discussed these beads with Valerie Hector, who is likewise interested in them, and who bought part of the collection. I was hoping to create a pictorial for publication, but could not find anyone interested in them, without some sort of documentation that would also be informing. And, essentially, I only know they are Chinese—and I think I can determine which are older and which are recent. (I've bought some at eBay that I suppose are fairly new—but well within keeping for the type of beads they are.) I would be delighted to show a group of these beads, if anyone is interested. I find them to be quite charming. Jamey
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06/03/2020, 01:47:19
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06/03/2020, 22:11:22
Related link: http://beadcollector.net/cgi-bin/anyboard.cgi?fvp=/openforum/&cmd=get&cG=9373832393&zu=3937383239&v=2&gV=0&p=
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
06/03/2020, 22:19:11
An example from the "1923" beads on the sample card from Floor's thread? http://beadcollector.net/cgi-bin/anyboard.cgi?fvp=/openforum/&cmd=get&cG=63331313535363&zu=36333131353534&v=2&gV=0&p=
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Posted by: stefany Post Reply
06/04/2020, 01:16:19
dear everyone
these porcelain beads that are decorated with rosebuds etc. applied with coloured enamels almost like Dresden tea sets interest me - and i would love to acquire a few examples for my collection as i don't have any... so if you hear of anyone who can sell me a representative few beads, please message me- lockdown is such a good opportunity to further my.practical research..
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
06/04/2020, 09:34:15
Stefany, I, too, was struck by the similarity to German china. The ends of the beads have lustre glaze applied over the black squiggles, similar to that on the china cup and plate.
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Posted by: stefany Post Reply
06/04/2020, 13:38:42
though i had in mind the rosebuds like on teacups and saucers ...
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