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Posted by: si Post Reply
02/04/2020, 23:25:30

A dealer at the 25th St Flea (RIP) sold this to me for a few bucks, what do you make of it?

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02/04/2020, 23:28:29

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02/04/2020, 23:30:47

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02/04/2020, 23:31:55

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Posted by: will Post Reply
02/05/2020, 10:49:27

Hello SI,

It's definitely an interesting seal, and the wear looks as though it may be authentic. But, as with everything, there are many good (as well as bad) fakes out there. Do you have an impression of it? Even although it appears to be heavily worn, it's amazing how the pattern can reveal itself in a rolled-out impression. And that might help with dating.

And are you sure it's actually hematite? I'm asking because I have a hematite seal myself; I couldn't find it this morning, but then I thought I saw it at the back of a box. It turned out actually to be black steatite, which was obvious as soon it was in the palm of my hand. I'm still looking for the hematite one. The most beautiful I've seen was one that I remember Joyce showing here some time ago.

I love hematite; if it wasn't for jade, I think hematite would be my favourite material for beads and small carvings. It's the density, seemingly half-stone, half metal, and the glow, the sheen that it assumes with polishing.

I'll attach a couple of examples. The first is a pendant that, according to Yankee, is probably later Nautifian from West Asia, a stunning 10,000 or so years old. And the second is one that I treasure, a hematite frog amulet, that I've assumed until recently was Babylonian (mid-second millennium BCE). But then I saw a very similarly carved bead in a museum that was said to be Sumerian, so it may possibly be quite a bit earlier than I thought. More work required!

Cheers,

Will

PS There was an interesting discussion about hematite on here about six or seven years ago, in which Yankee showed a number of very helpful examples.

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Posted by: si Post Reply
02/05/2020, 13:25:10

Thanks, Will. Those are beautiful. I don't know what the stone is - hematite is a guess because it's black, has a soft sheen, and no inclusions I can see. I'll see if I can get hold of some clay to make an impression. I can see two standing figures and a seated one, and a star design that's so worn as to almost be gone. The technique looks similar to museum examples I've seen, but of course that doesn't tell you much.



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Posted by: AnneLFG Post Reply
02/05/2020, 21:31:32

Hi, If you have the tools-you can measure Specific Gravity to rule out certain minerals.

For instance Specific Gravity of Hematite = 5.3 Grams/cc
Specific Gravity of Schorl (Black tourmaline) = 3.15 gm/cc.
Specific Gravity of Onyx = 2.70 gm/cc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGnNE-MWDV4&feature=emb_title

http://gemologyproject.com/wiki/index.php?title=Specific_Gravity

We just used this test and it works!

Good Luck and please let us know!

P.S. This technique works for minerals of Uniform composition- not Mixes or conglomerates

Anne

Bead lover, collector since Age 15, semi-retired had wholesale/retail bead, folk art, tribal art store Lost and Found Gallery for 25 yrs. in DT Greensboro, NC

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