I cannot think of any red-over-white wound beads that are not Venetian.

It has been said that Bohemians made their own versions of cornaline d'Aleppo beads (these being smaller red-on-white ((or pink)) drawn beads)—but I am not convinced this is true. Or, if it is true, how one would recognize the difference(s).

Some past dialogues here:

http://beadcollector.net/cgi-bin/anyboard.cgi?fvp=/openforum/&cmd=iYz&aK=47983&iZz=47983&gV=0&kQz=&aO=1&iWz=0

I also have the nice filigrana-decorated overlay beads you show, seen here:

http://beadcollector.net/cgi-bin/anyboard.cgi?fvp=/openforum/&cmd=iYz&aK=38235&iZz=38235&gV=0&kQz=&aO=1&iWz=0

Since we've seen so many examples of artificially aged beads I was not sure these are Venetian. Would be interested on any similar examples you've seen yourself.

I am surprised. How would you characterize the red glass, if this is not composed over a pale/opaque base bead? Is it a single slightly translucent red glass—such that you can see the shadow (or presence) of the perforation channel through its substance?

I would be inclined to doubt that the red glass eroded-away enough to make the twisted cables become "raised." This is understandable in-theory, but not something one sees in reality.

Jamey

The beads in the original photo that I have questions about are in the bottom row of beads. The top row was added to show how most Venetian beads with this color glass and twisted cane decoration have the decoration smoothly melted into the surface.

The beads I have questions about are show in these two new photos. Note that the twisted cane is left standing out from the surface. Also the beads have no white or yellow core. I have other Venetian beads of this color with no core. However I don't have any with twisted cane decoration that sticks out from the surface like this, which makes me wonder if these beads are recent reproductions. I don't know enough about how the surface of old cranberry glass should look to decide on the basis of the appearance of the surface.

Thanks everyone for your comments on these beads!

If these beads are venetians , I'm not sure .But my opinion about their look is that they could have been sandblasted ( projecting sand strongly with air pressure ) Or acid perhaps , but acid is expensive ,sandblasting is not . Fakers want to make easy money ,I think .

good day to all

If these beads are venetians , I'm not sure .But my opinion about their look is that they could have been sandblasted ( projecting sand strongly with air pressure ) Or acid perhaps , but acid is expensive ,sandblasting is not . Fakers want to make easy money ,I think .

good day to all

The exciting thing about old beads is that even after almost ten years of looking at thousands (or more!) of different Venetian beads, I still find ones that I haven't seen before!

Grazie, Nicole!