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Posted by: jrj Post Reply
10/28/2018, 23:13:27

Thanks!

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Qing (?)
Re: Age of Chinese enamel bead? -- jrj Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
10/29/2018, 15:21:46

This appears to be a mounted bead, probably from a Mandarin hat, from sometime in the Qing Dynasty. Jamey



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Thanks, Jamey. Early 1900s?
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Posted by: jrj Post Reply
10/29/2018, 17:52:31



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Most-likely.
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Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
10/30/2018, 07:44:25



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Hat finial seems doubtful to me; court necklace, maybe
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Posted by: Beadiste Post Reply
11/01/2018, 10:05:13

After the end of the Qing empire in 1912, court artifacts from necklaces and hats seem to have been popular for conversion into trinkets such as servant bells, canisters, and jewelry for foreigners. The style of cloisonne work on these beads matches Fran's "lantern" beads necklace.

http://www.beadiste.com/2015/01/puzzling-evidence-rare-deco-chinese.html

I own the 3 beads from the auction photo in the blog article, and posted about them here:

http://beadcollector.net/cgi-bin/anyboard.cgi?fvp=/openforum/&cmd=iYz&aK=535220&iZz=535220&gV=0&kQz=&aO=1&iWz=0


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Similar bead with gold or gilded copper finials for a Japanese sagemono
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Posted by: Beadiste Post Reply
11/01/2018, 10:29:13

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Re: Similar bead with gold or gilded copper finials for a Japanese sagemono
Re: Similar bead with gold or gilded copper finials for a Japanese sagemono -- Beadiste Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Frederick II Post Reply
11/01/2018, 18:45:37

When you say "sagemono" you are saying netsuke ensemble. Which means this is intended for usage as an ojime. I say not.

This is an adaptation with a perforation which has been altered with a collar which is neither Chinese nor Japanese.



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I should have stated that it was presented on eBay as a "sagemono" bead
Re: Re: Similar bead with gold or gilded copper finials for a Japanese sagemono -- Frederick II Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Beadiste Post Reply
11/02/2018, 00:09:51



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Hole pic
Re: I should have stated that it was presented on eBay as a "sagemono" bead -- Beadiste Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Beadiste Post Reply
11/02/2018, 00:13:50

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Aha. Finally found the pic I was seeking - a Haskell-style bracelet
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Posted by: Beadiste Post Reply
11/01/2018, 10:47:24

featuring these beads as pendants.

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Re: Age of Chinese enamel bead? -- jrj Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Frederick II Post Reply
11/01/2018, 18:15:52

After nearly fifty years of experience with antique Chinese beads, having handled about five or six graduated necklaces with this type of enamelwork, and fewer than twenty loose ones (they are scarce)…

I find this type of enamelwork is rarely found in Mandarin Court Necklaces. But more often in beads made for fashion in the 1920's and 1930's

The way to rule out the possibility it may be from a MCN, is to measure the bead. While the Mandarin Court Necklace is always the same length, the size of the beads in a MCN varies just slightly.



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