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Posted by: sammitenn Post Reply
08/08/2018, 05:57:52

Hi everyone,

Any ideas as to the decade these were made? I thought perhaps 50's?

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Maybe? Or more recent, from India?
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
08/08/2018, 10:23:57

Start at about 4:40 on the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9DkLF0vdSs


Related link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9DkLF0vdSs

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Re: Maybe? Or more recent, from India?
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
08/08/2018, 10:31:32

I have a really hard time distinguishing Czech, Venetian, and Indian examples of these beads. Maybe we should start a list of distinguishing characteristics, such as

color of glass
texture of glass (opal, satin, opaque)
mix of translucent/opaque pink of rosettes
pattern and neatness of the blue/white dots

...something to entertain the obsessive among us, LOL?



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Floor's photo of wedding cake beads sample card in Jablonec Museum
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
08/08/2018, 12:30:58


Related link: http://beadcollector.net/cgi-bin/anyboard.cgi?fvp=/openforum/&cmd=get&cG=13030343633343&zu=393637343833&v=2&gV=0&p=

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And Joyce's photo of a 1960s catalog card - opal blue bead like yours?
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
08/08/2018, 12:35:32


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Modified by beadiste at Wed, Aug 08, 2018, 12:38:10

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Posted by: paigar Post Reply
08/08/2018, 13:33:19

Nope these are Venetian and I would agree with 1950s-1960s. "Typicals" include the pink roses and the blue/white forget-me-nots with the yellow center dot. Indian made wedding cake beads have the white release in the holes and usually the blue/white/yellow applied glass looks more like small applied bubbles and they stand out from the bead at least .5-1mm. I am attaching a picture of Indian wedding cake beads currently being sold on the bay as being from Murano.

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Yep, I concur! :)
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
08/09/2018, 06:59:25



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Posted by: sammitenn Post Reply
08/09/2018, 08:10:18

Great thanks guys, so venetian from mid century then we agree?



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Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
08/10/2018, 19:44:28


You will see from past posts that I am somewhat in disagreement with perhaps a fair number of collectors, as to what comprises a group of "wedding cake" beads. My opinion is that actual wedding cake beads derived from the late-19th/early-20th Cs—though there are later beads that have some characteristics in-common.

You can also see that the later editions have continued to be made at Venice, even recently.

Regarding Floor's assertion, I would want some proof that the card(s) held in the Czech Glass Museum are not Venetian. When I was there, I certainly saw cards I was (am) confident were (are) Venetian beads. JDA.

http://beadcollector.net/cgi-bin/anyboard.cgi?fvp=/openforum/&cmd=iYz&aK=68739&iZz=68739&gV=0&kQz=&aO=1&iWz=0

http://beadcollector.net/cgi-bin/anyboard.cgi?fvp=/openforum/&cmd=iYz&aK=68225&iZz=68225&gV=0&kQz=&aO=1&iWz=0


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Agree with Jamey
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Posted by: floorkasp Post Reply
08/11/2018, 09:31:35

The ones on the sample card (and there is at least another similar card) from the Czech museum does not look Czech to me.
When I first posted it, I did think so, but not so sure anymore. The museum does label them as Czech.

It seems, and I have yet to look into that further, that the crossover between a Czech and a Venetian company has created some beads that were either sold by the Czechs, but made in Venice. Or, made by Venetians, working in Czech.



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