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Posted by: CoinCoin Post Reply
06/26/2018, 11:46:41

Three sample strands from MD, the one Africa Trader I have found who consistently sells Indonesian and other modern beads as old Venetian. He says these are from Italy, but more recently made. A variation on the "old cane" explanation for why beads from Africa are too new looking, but clearly more than cutting a cane involved in making these. The large "French Cross" he had in many colors. My sense was he would take $50 for the Face and Fr. Ambassador. Anyone know where / when these were made?

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Third strand image
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Posted by: CoinCoin Post Reply
06/26/2018, 11:47:38

Here are the "French Cross"

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I've been seeing the replica French Cross bicone beads recently.
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Posted by: birdi Post Reply
06/29/2018, 08:34:43

One strand was turquoise blue.



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They look Indonesian
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Posted by: floorkasp Post Reply
06/26/2018, 14:15:12

The fact that they are so identical in wear and patina, the colors that are not quite right and the stringing on cotton all point to modern replicas made in Java to me.



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I would agree with you Floor. I have strong doubts on Venetian......
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Posted by: beadbox Post Reply
06/26/2018, 17:04:09



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Thanks
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Posted by: CoinCoin Post Reply
06/29/2018, 07:59:35

Thanks for weighing in on this. Some other strands he had with these were clearly Indonesian and he acknowledged this. I've got to sharpen my skills on this sort of bead. If they had been stressed and offered by a more trustworthy source I could have easily been fooled.



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No, they are not Venetian beads.
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Posted by: kika Post Reply
06/29/2018, 09:20:56

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