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Bead ID: 8 layer Venetian chevron ?
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Posted by: beadweyr Post Reply
05/24/2018, 17:43:33

Hi All

Came accross this bead today looks like a 8 layer Venetian to me.

9mm x 8.5mm

Any other opinions?

Thanks Wayne

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Re: Bead ID: 8 layer Venetian chevron ? -- beadweyr Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
05/25/2018, 09:41:41


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Re: Layer Issues - 2006-2007 -- Beadman Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
05/25/2018, 10:14:49

These searches are best-read from the bottom, up. In this group you will see your bead posted by Joyce on March 31st.

Your bead is a five-layer bead with subsidiary white and red layers—as explained.

These beads are odd, and were most-likely not made by Moretti, but rather by some competing company, that did not have a good handle on technique.

http://beadcollector.net/cgi-bin/anyboard.cgi?fvp=%2Fopenforum%2F&tK=chevron+layer+beadman&wT=1&yVz=yTz&aO=1&hIz=4000&hJz=3000&cmd=find&by=&xcfgfs=tK-wT-yVz-aO-hKz

JDA.


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Posted by: beadweyr Post Reply
05/25/2018, 10:31:09

Thanks Jamey, Read through the first link you posted, interesting stuff in that thread and I had a follow up question about the red layer but it looks like this response will answer it..

Thanks for the response and the info as always.



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Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
05/25/2018, 10:42:03



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Re: Re: Layer Issues - 2007-2009 -- Beadman Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
01/03/2020, 19:55:24

January 2020

Correcting my error—The bead being discussed is an atypical 6-layer bead!

As sometimes happened in 20th C. chevron beads, the base layer of the star cane is actually two layers, of slightly different white glasses, that would be counted as one layer. Then, the brick-red glass has reverted, at the interior of that 4th layer, to green glass—which was the natural color of the glass before the copper colorant had been incorporated. It sometimes happens that the platelets of copper (that provide the opaque red color) revert back and the glass returns to green in those areas. This glass often appears to be "black." However a strong light would probably reveal it is a saturated green. (I have viewed this under a microscope and captured it in photos a number of times.)

So, there are "four layers" that are actually TWO layers—making it a 6-layer cane.

There are indeed five-layer canes, in which a "black" glass is placed next to a red layer (with no intervening white layer). But these are sloppy distinctive beads, and were most-likely not made by Moretti. The "black" glass is actually a deep saturated madder-red (probably colored with manganese). And there are beads with "black" external layers of this same glass.

I was my error to suggest the bead in-question were a five-layer bead. Jamey



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