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Rhodonite beads carved into a sort of shou pattern
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
11/30/2017, 12:45:44

Was amusing myself recycling an ugly old necklace of graduated rhodonite beads by combining them with some nice little cloisonne beads, and got wondering if perhaps the stone beads had been carved in Idar-Oberstein instead of China.

The sort-of-shou pattern is reminiscent of those Deco-era blue glass beads. Same sort of medallion lines, with what look like carved spirals around each medallion.

The rhodonite is nice quality - not a lot of black lines, only one bead with a gray patch - and graduated. Which is not how I remember Chinese rhodonite beads from the 1990s.

Anybody got an opinion on this one?

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I think they are rhodochrosite, not rhodonite.
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
11/30/2017, 23:40:12



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Re: I think they are rhodochrosite, not rhodonite.
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
12/01/2017, 09:18:31

I considered that possibility, but the color doesn't really match the intense pink of rhodochrosite, nor are there any apparent lines of deposition. Instead, the granular structure and color are a better match for rhodonite; I can see a few little shiny cleavage planes as well. I have a rhodonite carving from Canada as well as rhodochrosite beads, and the visual comparison favors rhodonite. It must have been pretty good rough to not feature any black lines.

Yeah, I could drag out the refractometer and do a RI, but that's work...



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Chinese from the thirties or fourties.
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Posted by: Frederick II Post Reply
12/01/2017, 04:11:37



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Yep. I think you nailed it, Frederick.
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
12/01/2017, 09:41:45

Dragged out a charm necklace from my collection, and sure enough, the turquoise beads are carved in a very similar manner.

No wonder I thought the beads looked oddly familiar - I was focused on their resemblance to the blue glass shou beads, and totally forgot about the carved stone charms.

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Posted by: Frederick II Post Reply
12/01/2017, 09:58:08

The meaning of the Shou symbol is about human longevity. The Shou symbol became degraded because it is time effective to just make a cross hatched mark.

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Here are a few stylizations prior to their degradation into simple cross hatching:
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Posted by: Frederick II Post Reply
12/01/2017, 10:05:35

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Re: Here are a few stylizations prior to their degradation into simple cross hatching:
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12/01/2017, 18:49:20

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