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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
04/16/2017, 11:45:43

Recently I purchased these Deco-era Chinese cloisonne beads. The original set had been nicely re-strung, but I thought the design lacked exoticism - also didn't like the cheap barrel clasp - so I took it apart.

Dug out some decent cinnabar beads, and substituted bone for the beige "river stone" (because it looked like dirty ivory).

Alas, the design is now nearly 36 inches, which I think makes it unwearable unless you're flat-chested or don't work at a desk or counter where a long necklace will beat itself to death.

But I'm not sure what to eliminate to make it shorter. Ideas?

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Posted by: lindabd Post Reply
04/16/2017, 12:18:36

Perhaps remove the bone beads, or end them once the cinnabar begins?



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Posted by: jrj Post Reply
04/16/2017, 13:26:37

I agree with lindabd. The bone beads seem to take the focus off the cloisonné beads. I suggest using the blue beads only as spacers.

These suggestions would need to be mocked up to see if they look good: 1)You could eliminate the pair (or two pairs) of cinnabar beads closest to the clasp to make the necklace a little shorter or, 2) instead of alternating cloisonné and cinnabar beads, you could start with three cloisonné beads at the center, flanked by cinnabar beads--one on each side--and then two cloisonné beads on each side. W/ suggestion no. 2, use fewer cinnabar beads to make it shorter.



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Pack it with color, forget the white
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Posted by: birdi Post Reply
04/16/2017, 15:09:33

I used to use bone spacers, but no longer. I decided light colored spacers dominate too much, especially when used with jewel tones or dark colors. They also add too much length. If you could find cinnabar in graduated sizes, that would look rad. Maximize color, use white sparingly. Put fat knots between the beads. Remember to put some small beads next to the clasp to make room for fingers.



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Maybe just the cloisonne and cinnabar, drop the bone and blue rounds, and
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
04/16/2017, 16:52:40

put little 6mm brass disc in-between beads in between. I like these and need to get more - and they come in a bigger hole size, good for leather...


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I suggest antique brass accents & clasp
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
04/16/2017, 16:59:18

Try to pick up the color of the cloisonne wire work.

Antiqued brass generally adds an "antique period look" IMHO. Several examples -

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I give up.
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Posted by: Frederick II Post Reply
04/16/2017, 18:34:03

The way I learned it is: "If it is busy, make it busier." But, I have tried unsuccessfully every time; I don't think it is possible to enriched the look of cloisonné beads. Even beautiful Japanese Meiji Era cloisonné beads are extremely difficult.

So, I decided to use the least possible in between…maybe just a matte black Japanese seed bead? A small round bead in the right size would allow the cloisonné beads to swivel and would protect the enamel from abrasion.

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At the same time, I feel there is something wonderful and tacky about this design.
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Posted by: Frederick II Post Reply
04/16/2017, 18:43:20

And large numbers of these necklaces appear to have been sold. Most of them have remained intact -coming up again and again in the antiques markets- with appropriate attribution to Mariam Haskell. It would be difficult to reassemble one of these with an authentic appearance because patina on the brass would vary too much. And the brass components Mariam Haskell used are distinctive.

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Posted by: Biddulph Post Reply
04/29/2017, 22:49:12

Wondering if the chain was originally designed as a pocket watch chain ?

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The horror vacui or "too much is never enough".
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04/16/2017, 19:46:18



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Wonderful idea for a possible thread on a new category of beads: "Horror Vacui beads."
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