well... ya see now.... um.... errr...

you don't say YOU have owned them yourself for 30 years.

Sounds like a tall tale... from the telling of it... stories are only stories. Stories sell beads.

Fred, did you and Jamie ever track down the bead maker(s)? Is it known who they are? I think they are worthy beads, worthy enough to buy a few at reasonable prices. They are very interesting if nothing else.