The association.....Bob Brundage, David Ebbinghouse, Walter Seifried. Did Swope also grow up there? Bob once showed me some amazing carvings he did himself years ago too. Something in the water, or something, there in Indiana, has given rise to amazing talent and creativity! I met Walter Seifried only once, in Tucson 2007. He was, maybe still is, a specialty ancient beads and antiquities dealer. Business name, I Bead. No one I know has heard about him in some time, last I heard he was spending a lot of time in Thailand, and had previously lived for years in Ohio. Original cover of History of Beads, pub. 1987...strand of ancient mosaic face beads...beads that passed thru his hands....