Perhaps more interesting because it was your inquiry, and because of what Rosanna had to say. The links I provided do not (now) go to the dialogues I intended:

http://beadcollector.net/cgi-bin/anyboard.cgi?fvp=/openforum/&cmd=iYz&aK=74479&iZz=74479&gV=0&kQz=&aO=1&iWz=0