Thanks Odon (& by the way I sent you a private message late last week which you need to "log in" to receive). Appreciate your thoughts. I'm familiar with Pumtek and Garuda as well, but don't know this seller & wasn't certain on the non-traditional etched ones (not carnelian color), so thank you for your comments! Guess it's hit or miss when you purchase on the web, which is pretty much what I always do. I'm rarely not happy but always cautious. Thanks again & take care, Lynne