Ve-nice or No-nice.
Re: Very nice!!! -- beadbox Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Timbuk-2 Post Reply
04/30/2017, 12:52:17

Not that the world (or other things) are either black or white, but I am not a friend of wishi-washi kinda statements. One must collect pro's and con's, when being asked to evaluate a bead (a situation or anything else) - but the final statement, in my view, should be clear, without fear of being wrong. It's not helpful if the final conclusion leaves the door open both ways.

Unfortunately the poster did neither mentions the size of his beads, nor does he care to say where the beads were bought from. Not helpful if you're asking questions about a bead.

I do not believe the beads are a Venetian product! Here is why:

1.)It is true and known that new designs (of authentic and old [Venetian] beads) show up now and then. When 19 of them show up together, it is time to wonder, then worry, and ask the question of authenticity.

2.) There is no immedeate feeling: "No doubt - these are unmistakingly Venetian beads. Though hard to pinpoint why not, it is the general lack of "Laguna Veneta" air, I am breathing.

3.) The black base (at least on my screen) is more of an anthracite-greyish kinda color - weird, to say the least!

4.) The central "swirl-design" seems to be rather amateurish and often the idea of beadmaking novices, leave alone the weird green (for an old bead from Italy).

5.) The surface of the beads - uniformly matted - is completely lacking a convincing touch of age. It seems obvious that all pieces were treated at the same time, by the same means.

6.) The trailing shows no signs of Venetian intricacy and refinement, are instead rather ungraceful and inelegant (as much as the beadmaker - an amateur in my opinion - tried his best to give another impression)

7.) Despite a few tiny nicks here and there, I see none of the classic scars older beads generally wear with African pride.

8.) The surfaces show a few air-bubbles that broken open. That is nothing we would generally expect to see on older glassbeads from Venice.

The 19 glassbeads are most probably new. They could be from any of the Asian copy-cat industries, though ANYBODY with a torch and access to glass could have made them. They are not "Trade Beads", not old and not from Murano.

PS
Compare "swirls" - coincidental?
http://beadcollector.net/cgi-bin/anyboard.cgi?fvp=/openforum/&cmd=get&cG=33739333538393&zu=33373933333331&v=2&gV=0&p=



Modified by Timbuk-2 at Sun, Apr 30, 2017, 13:02:10

© Copyright 2017
All rights reserved by Bead Collector Network and its users
Followups