plus the Islamics??? You buy in a totally different universe from me Thomas, but I want a fast plane to wherever that is. I just received some glorious new kiffa, well new old, oh hell, you know what I mean. I know I SHOULD put a price on them, but it is hard for me to. It's like if I were starving to death and all the restaurant had left was the $300 Fugu sushi...I would eat it and well, probably die, but I would not starve. If I could trade all my ancients for high quality kiffa I probably would. That maybe tells you how much I love them. If the guy is gonna leave Tucson with any of those strands please pass along my email. I would love to see what they look like. Here is a pic of a wonderful small triangle that I just received. The smallest I have seen. It has lovely overall wear but is intact. How does one tell if they have an old kiffa?? There are so many mysteries surrounding them. sm