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Hi Jamey and 999 beads
Jamey i agree with you.The term "found" in China is the crucial problem.The artifacts could either have been only bought in China from a dealer/market and be only recently imported/even produced or the artifacts could have been excavated in China with whatever origin is evidenced based on burial time/location/and historical context.
There is solid evidence for both scenarios but unfortunately the former is by far the dominant pattern seen now.Having said that though the term "now" might be somewhat misleading.There are documents in existence in China from the Tang dynasty(618-907) that are essentially catalogues,produced in and/or for the royal court, of fake "burial" items that were being produced in China at that time(more than a thousand years ago) to satisfy the booming antiquities/ancient artifacts market way back then!!
As i said in my previous post i won't speculate about the origin/story of the beads in question in this specific thread.I would simply say that the Liao dynasty/SW China connection is not something i would be happy about and i agree that the origin of the beads points to the Indian tradition of agate bead production.When or how they came to China is not in immediate evidence.I am aware of the suspicion that we both share concerning current market conditions but based on the evidence given that is all i could say without speculating,which i know is something that you don't like to do,right? ;)
Perhaps Jamey if we can ,between my ambient ramblings and your knowledge of bead history,give 999beads an idea from your side at least,when such agate beads with such faceting could have been produced in India.This i am sure would give at least an initial solid foundation of scientific knowledge from you that 999beads can pick up on in his interest and hopefully further study. Peace Springee
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