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Please Help ID (Aspeo?) Bead
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Posted by: AFranck Post Reply
05/10/2015, 12:15:16

Hi,

I have got this strand of 33 beads which look like A Speo beads but not sure with their yellow stripes.


Beads diameter are between 0,9 cm and 1,4 cm and the whole is around 0,4 cm.

Thanks

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aSpeo is a method of manufacture
Re: Please Help ID (Aspeo?) Bead -- AFranck Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: TASART Post Reply
05/14/2015, 07:16:37

the color or stripe would not determine if these are aSpeo method beads, they appear to be, an end shot would also be helpful



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Re: aSpeo is a method of manufacture -- TASART Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: AFranck Post Reply
05/16/2015, 12:27:00

Thanks for the input, here are closer views of some of the individual beads.

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Re: Re: aSpeo is a method of manufacture -- AFranck Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Mel H Post Reply
05/16/2015, 16:03:49

Hi AFranck, these look as if they were made using the a speo technique, but I'm not an old hand like some, so take it for what it's worth. I'm including a link to a very informative thread concerning a speo production, hope you find it helpful!


Related link: http://beadcollector.net/cgi-bin/anyboard.cgi?fvp=/openforum/&cmd=get&cG=7363432353&zu=3736343235&v=2&gV=0&p=
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Cinnabar - Lac? Lacquer? Wax? Plastic?
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
04/14/2015, 12:11:55

I did a Wikipedia crawl, and discovered:

Lac comes from insects - India is a source; shellac is its main use

Lacquer comes from the sap of a tree related to poison ivy - China, Japan; forms a polymer when oxidized in moist air, which takes time; applied in multiple thin layers, with up to a week drying curing time between layers

Rosin comes from distilling pine wood, southern China is a major source

Sealing wax is a mixture of rosin and lac dissolved with turpentine - melts when heated, can take a very crisp molded image

Favorite colorants include vermilion (mercury derived, thus poisonous), red lead (again, not something to ingest), iron oxide, lampblack, and other pigments to produce mustard yellow, green, turquoise etc.

One can find old 19th century recipes and manufacturing descriptions.

Taking a closer look at the various "cinnabar" beads kicking around in my boxes, with ages that seem to be from around the 1930s (the molded melted-looking ones) to the 1970s-80s (coated wood or cloisonne), what I think these beads are covered with is wax, not lacquer. Multiple coats, yes, but the carving and chippage looks waxy. Others are clearly molded, not carved at all.

More recent beads are clearly some sort of cast polymer plastic.

The most interesting beads seem to be ones such as pictured in the Susan Dods link: larger beads with a black outer coating with multiple red/green/black layers below. Carefully carved. I could be convinced these are actual lacquer.

First pic below show layers and waxy texture (darker beads are better carved), second pic shows stuff applied over a cloisonne body and then carved

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Circa 1970s-80s according to Debby Arem and an eBay seller
Re: Cinnabar - Lac? Lacquer? Wax? Plastic? -- beadiste Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
04/18/2015, 15:27:16

I wish I'd seen Debby's necklace before someone else swooped in and bought it!

The eBay tassel pendant's seller says it was purchased "25-30 years ago" and is "vintage, not antique."

Possibly these beads might be among products from the Chinese workshops organized in the 1950s to earn foreign exchange from traditional arts - cloisonne, lacquer, ivory carving, jade carving.

Trade with the US took off in the early 1970s after the end of the 20-year embargo, hence the appearance of these items in US auctions of estate items purchased 30 years ago?

Although I cannot re-locate the site, recently found a Chinese site that distinguished between the varieties of cinnabar lacquer, and reported that the old craftsmen in the Beijing workshop were few in number, dying off, and not being replaced by younger craftspeople. Nobody wants to spend their life working patiently with toxic sap and being paid pennies for their skill, I'm guessing.

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Gettings back to..."Photography of Personal Adornment..." by Robert Liu
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
04/16/2015, 21:16:48

Here's the discussion from last week...

http://beadcollector.net/cgi-bin/anyboard.cgi?fvp=/openforum/&cmd=get&cG=139353232343&zu=313935323234&v=2&gV=0&p=

Received my copy yesterday and it is beautiful!

I have obtained permission from Frederick Chavez to post his very nice review from the Bead Society of N. CA newsletter:

Photography of Personal Adornment: Photographic Techniques for Jewelry/Artwear Craftspeople, Researchers, Scholars and Museum Gallery Staff. By Robert K. Liu, PhD, Ornament Magazine, 2014

Robert Liu’s new book will especially appeal to two groups of readers: The first group includes craftspersons and photographers -new or advanced- who want to make images of beads, jewelry or wearable art. The second, larger group is anyone who enjoys beads and or jewelry or has ever picked up an issue ofOrnament Magazine, a magazine he originated as The Bead Journal in the 1970's.

For the craftsperson who needs images for online sales, advertisements, PowerPoint presentations or juried entries: Dr. Liu offers 40 years of experience. He details the cameras, lenses and lighting equipment. He offers practical advice, such as the importance of preparation, and knowing your goals in order to achieve appropriate presentation. He goes into detail about technique, discusses the importance of point of view and orientation, and how to use comparisons to get your message across.

For the collector, this book offers an insider’s view along with instructive captions. Delightfully, it is a beautiful and interesting whirlwind survey of 40 years of Ornament Magazine –with insider comments about artists, the models seen over many issues and the lasting appeal of the beads and jewelry items themselves.

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Chevron ID Please
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Posted by: bonpo Post Reply
04/12/2015, 11:04:39

I've been told these two are Dutch or Venetian origin and date around 1600S..

this is so small its hard to count the layers.(8×6mm)

one looks like a 6L, but the other is a 7L??

thank you.

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Posted by: richard Post Reply
04/14/2015, 14:27:46

These are 16th century . Found along side the classic 7"s.



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Posted by: bonpo Post Reply
04/15/2015, 12:31:26

I am little surprised with the differing view points.

mine is substantially smaller then the Picards Exhibit types.

I have not made any conclusions,but as for now I am thinking that these could be the older versions of the 1700-1800 Aspeo beads.

(just like the typical 7 L chevrons that had a smaller versions at the beginning of manufacture. )



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A question about cloisonne dragon beads
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
11/04/2014, 08:51:02

Note the level of detail in the yellow oval dragon beads.[scroll to the right, the picture has two parts]

If you compare them with the specimens in the recent blog post, you will observe that some details (belly scales, chin whiskers) more closely resemble those on the salt and pepper shakers than they do the dragons in 1930s costume jewelry.

The other motifs on these yellow beads - the double fish, for example - appear on nicer cloisonne necklaces.

Anyone care to venture an opinion as to what decade these were made?

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Re: A question about cloisonne dragon beads
Re: A question about cloisonne dragon beads -- beadiste Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: highlander Post Reply
11/09/2014, 21:31:22

Both necklaces have wonderful, imaginative beads, they are wondeful attempts, most are. It is my guess that the mustard yellow bead necklace, that all of the 'floral' rounds seen in pics are mass produced modern attempts (a different artist made them) while being mixed with the ovals and some rounds done by older artist. The clouds are what appear to me to differ between them, the overall style, the use of colors, the goldwire around the floral beads used as a border more so in the rounds then in the ovals. I like the age of the ovals and some of the rounds as 1920-1940's. The bottom necklace not much younger if any...thanks for sharing!



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Two artists and/or two styles
Re: Re: A question about cloisonne dragon beads -- highlander Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
11/10/2014, 08:50:45

Nick - I noticed the difference between the cloud motifs on the rounds vs. those on the ovals, too. The more skilled artist who did the designs for the ovals may not have been prior in time to the person who made the round beads - they could have been working simultaneously, one a survivor from the 1920s, the other a new recruit. Or, a single artist could have taken more time to do the ovals, and just cranked out the rounds as a sort of break from having to concentrate. Or, an older artist could have drawn the designs for the oval beads, and someone else did the wire work.

Chinese accounts are adamant on the labor-intensive quality of cloisonne, and how it takes years of training.

The level of detail in the dragons (and other motifs) seems to me to reflect manufacture by an older artist skilled in the classic motifs. As to these beads being products of the 1970s....there is the Cultural Revolution to consider, which started in 1966. Accounts agree that it affected the cloisonne cooperatives, the net effect seeming to be the disappearance of any Buddhist or Taoist motifs. Mao, if I understand a Zhang Lu interview correctly, told the Beijing cooperative to stop making dragons. Only revolutionary themes for the peasants and workers. So when it came to beads, all that was safe to produce were flowers, butterflies, and birds, even after the Cultural Revolution waned in the mid-1970s, and were all standardized to allow production by relative newcomers to the craft.

By the time the 1990s rolled around, the older craftspeople from the 1920s were likely dead, hence the new versions of the traditional motifs that were once again allowed are noticeably different than the pre-WWII versions.

For those who'd like to compare pre-WWII work versus 1990s, here are some dragons (two older, one newer) You can see why I think the yellow oval beads were designed by someone older.

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Aspeo beads
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Posted by: AFranck Post Reply
11/02/2014, 08:32:04

Dear,

I would just like to show two long strands of aspeo beads i got recently. Both are approximately 46 inches strand with around 120 beads per strand.

Comments if any are welcome.

Thanks

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Picard Trade Bead Museum Visit - III. Fancy Beads
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
08/03/2014, 10:29:25

In this group of photos, I shot a selection of fancy beads from one row of the horizontal display cases in the museum. I think there are ten rows total. Then there are vertical display cases above all the horizontal cases. The beads on display include fancy, millefiori, chevron, stone, metal, shell - pretty much a comprehensive collection of beads traded to or made in Africa.

The following are just a selection of images taken from ONE of the rows. The number of different Venetian fancy beads on display is truly staggering. Every time, I visit, it seems that there are so many types of beads that I didn't see before...we all wished that the museum was closer to San Francisco so we could visit more often.

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Zebras and Pineapples
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
08/03/2014, 11:20:41

Rosanna,
Since it just wasn't my day to take a lot of images, I'm really glad that you did.

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Just a couple for the chevron gang...
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
08/03/2014, 11:24:47

First, part of a strand of lovely green 7-layer.....
and a heavy, substantial strand John was walking around with...many aspeo.....every one a drawn rosetta cane bead.

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Tucson find!
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Posted by: beadbox Post Reply
02/10/2014, 07:04:23

Tucson is a fantastic bead hunting adventure! It was great to catch up with many bcn members and friends. This bead is a faux chevron with superficial layers. It reminds me of a super large speo bead. Saibo had this bead at his booth. It was a big purchase for me, but I couldn't resist.

I hope you enjoy!

-Matt

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I was notified by my friend who is much more knowledagble...
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Posted by: beadbox Post Reply
02/13/2014, 09:30:27

about my description on this bead. It does not have superficial layers, but rather is a wound bead with white trail decoration. Faux chevron may be a little far fetched as this bead is without the rosetta pattern. This bead looks more like older blue drawn beads that do not have the star pattern.

Thanks,
Matt



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Posted by: karavanserai Post Reply
02/13/2014, 10:54:17

a big a speo bead, would that be correct?

martine

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Not finished aspeo, but a trail decorated fancy with the look of aspeo
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
02/13/2014, 18:00:10

would be my attempt to describe it.........



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Would you mind to elaborate on that please....
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Posted by: karavanserai Post Reply
02/14/2014, 04:39:46

I am still on my journey getting around bead production & history. So please bear with me.

I retrieved these 2 pictures from Tasart which show several types of a speo, at least I thought. With chevron layers inside, with drawn stripes, without stripes....
So I thought the moment there is at least one inner layer drawn, sorry which in reality are 3, like the blue/white bead below it can be considered an 'a speo'. In this way a Nueva Cádiz is an a speo and the chevron a special a speo?????

So the not finished a speo aspect of Matt's bead, does it have to do with the vertical lines, which here were not obtained from drawn cane but added through lampwork ? Yet there is a drawn inner layer-- (sorry 3 ). Is it then 'a dilettante' a speo ;-)? I am completely confused now. Is there a strict definition of an a speo? All help is welcome :-)

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A speo refers to drawn beads only
Re: Would you mind to elaborate on that please.... -- karavanserai Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
02/14/2014, 09:48:59

Matt's beads was made as an individual bead, then decorated with white trailing. It is a lamp-worked bead rather than a bead cut off a drawn cane.

A speo refers to a heat-treated drawn bead, which when cut off the cane would have squared-off ends. Placing the bead back into a flame or furnace either on a spit (a speo) or loose, was a technique to round off the cut edges. Presumably this was easier and faster than hand-faceting the edges.

So, neither the number of layers nor type of layers (star-pattern or smooth), nor outside stripes, has anything to do with whether the bead was heated after it was cut off the cane.

If I'm not badly mistaken this is how the term "a speo" is used.



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Yes, a bead is "a speo" if it is finished "on a spit", making it heat-rounded.
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02/14/2014, 19:12:39



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Thank you Rosanna and Joyce for this thorough explanation.
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Posted by: karavanserai Post Reply
02/16/2014, 11:22:00

I sure missed the ball on that one!

Strange though how most a speo beads known to me -but maybe that says more about me- are layered drawn black, blue with white.... I guess these visuals fooled me and fed my ignorance.

What about millefiori beads with rounded ends: I never seem to have read these were a speo; or oval striped beads or those oval melon beads, these should be a speo beads as well I thought. Can't remember them being described as a speo... or have I missed something else?

Can't you get the same rounded effect via lampwork, and how do you see the difference,.... or am I looking for trouble now ;-)

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Millefiori Beads are all made individually
Re: Thank you Rosanna and Joyce for this thorough explanation. -- karavanserai Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
02/16/2014, 13:22:58

Hi Martine,
Normally, it's easy to determine whether a bead was cut off from a drawn cane. I'd say the vast majority have concentric layers, even if there are only two. Solid color drawn beads also were made - but most of those were much smaller, typically known as seed beads. Smaller drawn beads were normally re-heated on big trays to round the edges.

Millies and "fancy" beads were made one by one in a torch. The shapes can be round, oval, cylindrical, etc and the ends can be rounded during the making of the bead. For most but not all of these you can see the swirling of the glass which was wound around a mandrel.

So, the two processes are very different - in one case, many identical beads are cut from a cane, and in the other case, individual beads (which are not identical, but can be close) were made one at a time by a lampwork artist.

And remember, a speo means that the bead was placed on a rod for re-heating. For reasons of labor intensity, this was only done for larger, more valuable beads. Just because smaller drawn beads were re-heated does not make them "a speo" beads. So the oval melon beads you mentioned were likely not re-heated on a rod. That's why the holes often appear squished out of round and irregular.

Hope this helps.



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Where the Great Beads of the World Stand Alone...Tucson 2014
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
02/09/2014, 21:13:42

I truly enjoyed the trip! It was so great to see Uncle Russ, looking strong and happy! Here he is with a Mary Mullaney chevron on the left, fab Art Seymour chevron on the right.

Rosanna and I took the Amtrak down from Oakland, CA. This is the sunset view from Santa Barbara (or thereabouts) where the train was almost at sea level.....the next morning we were to awaken in Tucson!

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Grant Inn
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
02/09/2014, 22:15:04

Just a few quick snaps of the Tasart booth. Something is always going on here! It was great to see Bassem, Phil, Indra and Hassan in the ballroom as well. Seems the Ethnographic Group is solid!

Here, we see Basket Bob inspecting some important Tasart product.
And, closeup of the beads on the table...fine "tire" beads, fake chevrons, a speos, and more collectible beads.

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Moon Beads and "Dutch" Pentagonal Cylinders - Anything New?
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
01/23/2014, 11:44:57

Mining the Archives for prior posts on these beads, I found this info:

Stefany's cellphone photo in the Allard Pierson Museum of the case with display from the Van der Sleen bead study collection - these beads seem to appear in the middle of the center picture.

http://beadcollector.net/cgi-bin/anyboard.cgi?fvp=/openforum/&cmd=iYz&aK=96336&iZz=96336&gV=0&kQz=&aO=1&iWz=0

And from Jamey:

f you look for past messages here, you'll find several posts that describe how 90% of the beads that are said to "Dutch" and "from the 17th C." (that's when the Dutch were most active), are actually 19th and 20th C., beads from Germany. Your beads are not very rare, and any suggestion that they warrant a high price is based on their misidentification as "Dutch."

Typical Dutch beads are distinctive (apart from those that closely copy Venetian beads of that time—drawn rosetta beads, usually finished a-speo). Your beads do not resemble actual Dutch beads, apart from being furnace-wound.

There is no real proof related to where they are from, nor what their timeline may be. However, they are recovered in Holland—so it's a reasonable guess they may have been made there. Because they are furnace-wound beads, there is no historical "factory waste" that could be recovered archaeologically. These, and pentagon ("twisted square") beads are placed in the early 18th C. as a matter of convenient speculation. I have no reason to suspect this is incorrect. Plus, the places where any of these beads have gone are sometimes noteworthy for having had known trade relations with Holland.

Apart from the van der Sleen Collection, the Archaeological Centre in Amsterdam has specimens of these beads. They told me none were dated, but that this suggested the beads were late. (Meaning ca. the 18th C.) The glass that was used has a severe tendency to break-down—indicting the the constituents were combined in a disadvantageous proportion. The outcome is, the glass decays easily (via leeching of the lime), and the beads OFTEN look much older than they are. The beads are routinely clear/colorless, white, translucent cobalt blue (from pale to dark), translucent yellow (sometimes modulated to an almost reddish tone, but mostly resembling amber), and violet.

When recovered in a Middle Eastern/Asian context, these beads are routinely mistaken to be and sold as "ancient."

Culled from these threads:
http://beadcollector.net/cgi-bin/anyboard.cgi?fvp=/openforum/&cmd=iYz&aK=65827&iZz=65827&gV=0&kQz=&aO=1&iWz=0

http://beadcollector.net/cgi-bin/anyboard.cgi?fvp=/openforum/&cmd=iYz&aK=57571&iZz=57571&gV=0&kQz=&aO=1&iWz=0

http://beadcollector.net/cgi-bin/anyboard.cgi?fvp=/openforum/&cmd=iYz&aK=66645&iZz=66645&gV=0&kQz=&aO=1&iWz=0

So, is this pretty much all we know about these beads? If I understand the prior posts correctly, this strand is a mix of possibly 17th or 18th century beads and German mid-19th century beads? With the little wound bluish milky beads dating.... -???

They all (apart from the cobalt bead and the alabaster white moon beads) show that dichroic orange glow from - I forget - bone meal? used in the composition of the glass batch?

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Related link: Uwe's thread on these pentagonal cylinder wound beads
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can anyone help me with identification of these beads please?
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01/04/2014, 19:30:03

they were excavated in Ghana and measure 7mm to 9mm in diameter and 6.7mm to 16.5mm in length. Help would be much appreciated, Judy

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17th -18th c. drawn beads, finished "a speo", Venetian
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
01/04/2014, 21:12:23

That's my opinion, but would like confirmation. Do these have layers?



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Re: 17th -18th c. drawn beads, finished "a speo", Venetian
Re: 17th -18th c. drawn beads, finished "a speo", Venetian -- Rosanna Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: judy Post Reply
01/04/2014, 21:28:00

Hi Rosanna, no there are no layers. Why do you think they are aspeo? Judy



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After drawing a glass tube, and cutting off a bead,
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
01/04/2014, 22:12:20

My understanding is that the gently rounded ends and slumped shapes are a result of re-heating the bead on a spit (speo). Maybe this can be done without the spit, not sure. How big are the holes? are the holes collapsed and irregular or round and regular?



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Amsterdam, Middelburg?
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Posted by: hans06 Post Reply
01/05/2014, 05:17:50

Origin from the Netherlands (Amsterdam, Middelburg) is possible too
And maybe not a Speo, but pinched (the hot glass tube cut with a scissor, rotating)
Like to see pictures of the hole, is there by some a kind of rim around it?
hans



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close up of perforations
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01/05/2014, 13:11:24

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Posted by: hans06 Post Reply
01/11/2014, 05:22:31

Hi Judy,
sorry I didn't see your response earlier. I can't tell by your last photograph if the beads are pinched. But, if they had a "a speo" treatment the surface would be shinier, more dense and globular. I think...

Hans



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thank you Hans
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Posted by: judy Post Reply
01/12/2014, 09:49:34

Jamey Allen's opinion regarding these beads is as follows:-
Rosanna's reply to your question is correct. These are not hot-pinched beads. However, it's not impossible they were made in Holland or England, at the same time such beads were made at Venice. From the 17th C.

It is also true that, when new, a-speo beads would have been shiny (unless treated to not be shiny). But, MANY beads from an African context have lost their shine, a long time ago. Africa, as an environment, is unkind to glass.



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Need some help with a Chinese translation, please
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
01/07/2014, 12:51:28

Can anyone please tell me what this slip says?

Does the 49 11 1 part represent a date?

The People's Republic was founded 10/1/1949.

And many Nationalists, of course, fled to Taiwan in 1949.

According to Wikipedia, 594 is the Chinese telephone prefix for Putian in Fujian.

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It's an address in Taipei.
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01/07/2014, 13:35:50



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Thanks, David - I wondered if the piece was Taiwanese cloisonne
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
01/07/2014, 14:37:06

So it's nice to have some evidence verifying that provenance.
Not to be ungrateful, but is there anything that might be the manufacturer's name? Is that upper line indeed a date, such as "Quality Cloisonne Since November 1, 1949" ;^)

I never paid much attention in the news to the islands near China's coast that are claimed by Taiwan, but the Wikipedia article on Kinmen (formerly Quemoy) had this interesting little tidbit:

Many Taiwanese businesspeople use the link through Kinmen to enter the Chinese mainland, seeing it as cheaper and easier than entering through Hong Kong. However, this changed following the 2005 Pan-Blue visits to mainland China and the presidential and legislative victories of the KMT, that allowed easier Cross-Strait relations. Kinmen has experienced a considerable economic boom as businesspeople relocate to the island for easier access to the vast markets of the PRC.


Related link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinmen

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Private Collection ~ memories from an elegant journey in Chinese beads
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11/23/2013, 20:18:55

Frederick

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Rest in Peace and Beauty
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
11/25/2013, 22:27:02

I just heard that Ms. Dods had passed away today. Sincere condolences to all her friends and family.



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I hope her family keeps her blogsite up
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
11/26/2013, 09:56:58

It's such a beautiful testament to a mind entranced by the charm of the small, often ignored objects in our lives. You can just feel the delight she took in her collection, and her generosity in making the effort to share her treasures with the rest of us. Her spouse's skill in photography in support of her passion is also something that should not just disappear.

The site is also an excellent tribute to the artistry and skill of the anonymous craftspeople who created these little beauties.



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Beads in their original dateable object - 1760 AD
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Posted by: Carole Morris Post Reply
08/19/2013, 09:27:45

Hi everyone
Have been wanting to post these for a while, and now have the images scaled down to post.

These lovely combed/feathered beads (sometimes called squiggled beads, but I like to reserve that name for English squiggled beads made for lace bobbin spangles), are still in situ on an urn pedestal which was made about 1760 in a workshop established in Brunswick in what was the the Electorate of Brunswick-Lüneburg, then Hanover, now in modern Germany.

Some good seed bead colours as well.

The urn and pedestal was made by an ex pat dutchman - Johann Michael van Selow between 1755 -1767 (the twelve years in which his workshop was running). It is in the Lady Lever Gallery in England (in Port Sunlight, Wirral, near Liverpool) and at last I got a chance to visit there a few weeks ago.

I'll post a couple of other images as well, and see what people think.

Cheers
Carole

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08/19/2013, 09:29:58

More combed/feathered ovals, a couple of excellent black & white striped a speo beads, some more good seed beads, and a few mother-of-pearl and gemstone pieces.

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Thank you, all of you, for your support and this healing necklace
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Posted by: Russ Nobbs Post Reply
08/04/2013, 22:10:59

I was blown away as I opened the package Joyce and David sent. I was crying as I tried to read all the notes and wishes sent with the bead and necklace.

It is humbling to realize and accept all the love sent my way by the bead community and BCN. Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!

Dee takes me back to the hospital in the morning for course #5 of chemo so I don't have time this evening to read all the notes. The necklace is overwhelming. I think you all understand how much this means to me.

The love and care sent my way is working. We believe I am in remission at this time but I will take more chemo to make sure. Then I move to OHSU in Portland for stem cell harvesting and transplanting. With your support we will make it through this adventure.

Thank you all. I love you all.

Russ Nobbs (Uncle Russ)



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Healing wishes, Russ! Bead id and the contributors.....
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
08/05/2013, 22:44:22

Hugs and thanks to everyone……in order of their beads arrival…….

Linda, Jan, Jeff, Judy, Rosanna, Frank and Charlene, Matt, Paige, George, Joan, Jaret, Billy, Rick, Paula, Jamey, Terry, Stefany, Art, Luann, Julianna, Stacy, Tom, Danny, Wayne,Charles, Thomas, Floor, Peter, Carole T., Cody, Bassem, Margot, Carole M., Guy and J'Me,
Rachel, and Jake.

Word got out beyond, and yet another lovely bead arrived here on Saturday, which will be sent along to Russ. Thank you, Harold!

The necklace is approx. 48" long and weighs 13 ounces. Maybe not for square dancing or picking up recyclables at music festivals, but for sipping lattes, attending art openings or the theater, dining with other bead heads, perfect!

And now, a bead-by-bead id:

1) ancient white agate cylinder
2) Peter's first glass bead! From the Netherlands
3) oval multi-color chevron, newer grind
4) translucent bead bearing ashes of the late Al Lind, by Art Seymour
5) genuine modern wampum bead by the Wampanoag tribe of Martha's Vineyard
6) lampwork berry bead by Guy of Wild Things
7) ancient agate cylinder bead from Mali
8) Venetian lamp work "festooned" bead
9) lampwork bead by Jim Smircich, early 1990s
10) Chinese turquoise bead
11) chevron from the first batch Art Seymour ever made, circa late 1986
12) ancient beads of amber
13) antique Krobo bodom family bead
14) hollow blown bead by Floor in the Netherlands
15) lamp work eye bead by Charles (will show another image showing the cool eye)
16) modern Krobo recycled glass
17) blown Venetian glass heart with gold leaf
18) Venetian lampwork replicating Krobo bodom
19) polymer otter by Luann Udell
20) Venetian lampwork bicone
21) lampwork by Tim of Beaded Lily, now in UK
22) Venetian 6L chevron bead, grind by the Howard family
23) antique Krobo bodom bead
24) large polymer bead of Union flag cane decor, by Carole Morris and Graeme in UK
25) large decorated stone bead, red/white/blue eye, from India
26) Venetian 6L chevron bead, grind by Uwe Wantke in Germany
27) lampwork bead, unknown artist
28) modern Krobo powder glass bead
29) very ancient olive shaped agate eye bead
30) folded polymer bead by Jamey Allen, with decor of 3 Khamsa with eyes. 1990s.
31) antique 4L aspeo chevron, Dutch or possibly Venetian
32) antique Khond brass bead from India
33) polymer chevron by Cody Craynor
34) ancient Islamic black and white teardrop
35) ancient Islamic sea foam green furnace bead with inserts
36) black and white contemporary chevron from India
37) 19th c. Italian terracotta Maiolica bead with "Spes Mea", or "My Hope"
38) Venetian oval millefori bead, early 20th c.
39) large teardrop antique mother of pearl bead
40) ancient Islamic eye bead
41) ancient beads of amber
42) Venetian multi chevron
43) red chevron, applecore grind by Rick Rice
44) ancient Roman furnace wound double bead
45) antique agate bead
46) modern Krobo recycled glass
47) 2013 BCN agate bead, made in Taiwan

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