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(Search pattern:a speo, since Sun, Feb 07, 2016, 07:33:29)

would appreciate an ID on this bead
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Posted by: judy Post Reply
06/06/2017, 18:32:46

I've had it for some time and have yet to see another one like it. Can anyone identify it? it's large, 20.6 mm in length and 22 mm in diameter. The red lines are only on one side. Any help would be much appreciated. thanks, Judy

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unusual color scheme but looks like typical 18-19th century a speo Venetian
Re: would appreciate an ID on this bead -- judy Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
06/07/2017, 09:29:40



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Those slotted disk-shaped Chinese cloisonne dragon beads
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
05/05/2017, 13:49:29

Here's one in action on a Japanese sagemono pouch.

https://auction.catawiki.com/kavels/5976259-leather-sagemono-inro-netsuke-with-brass-+-ojime-cloisonne-japan-19th-century-and-early-20th-century

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Two good ojime
Re: To me, the cord and bead are obvious replacements. -- Frederick II Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Frederick II Post Reply
05/06/2017, 12:19:33

These are only three quarters of an inch in height or 18mm.

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Twisted wire
Re: Two good ojime -- Frederick II Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
05/06/2017, 13:40:28

Frederick, would you mind getting out your loupe to examine the cloisone bead with the twisted wires to see if they, as well as the enamel, were ground level? They appear to be so in the photo.

The Chinese use of twisted wire cloisonne seems to be a constant from Mandarin necklace beads to the present, where it is the technique of choice for cheap and colorful trinkets, as it requires no grinding of the enamel. The wires always stick up above the glass (or epoxy, as it may be nowadays), as the cloisons are only filled once and then fired, so the enamel sinks into the wells and maintains its glossy firepolish.

I have yet to see a Chinese piece, other that some from the Kuo factory in Taiwan, that uses twisted wire for anything except the fill-once-and-firepolish method.

However, Japanese cloisonne work sometimes displays the use of twisted wire, often in the same design as flat or tapered wire, with the enamel surface polished smooth, wires and enamel at the same level. Very experimental?

Curiously, this blend of twisted wires and flat wires in the same piece also shows up in pieces from the Kuo factory in Taiwan, 1970s-80s. [pic attached] I've often wondered if the Taiwanese cloisonne craftspeople adopted Japanese transparent enamels and twisted wire and eschewed the opaque mainland enamels that were unavailable to them because, as Nationalists, they had fled the country; and Japan, during the 50 years they occupied Taiwan, likely established some cloisonne workshops in the usual course of small business expansion into new territories? Also Japan was handy as a source of the enamels? More unsolved mysteries.

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I would value your opinion on these
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Posted by: Adrienne Post Reply
11/15/2016, 13:46:20

Very heavy Glass...the background colour is lighter than the photographs...real stunners but I can't find any similar to compare ...your thoughts would be valued.

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Gablonz vs. Murano
Re: Well...... -- floorkasp Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Timbuk-2 Post Reply
11/23/2016, 12:24:06

I respectfully disagree, Floor. Massively! The difference between lampwork from Gablonz and Venice can only be measured by lightyears!
Not that proof is really needed in my opinion, but the beads you posted (right side) are proof of that. Any beginner is able to make such pieces. Unfortunately I cannot see the sample-card very well, but the card seems to show simple beads with a Millefiori cane.

Anybody else thinking Gablonz was an equal lampworker in comparison to Venice? Surprise me!



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Actually.....
Re: Gablonz vs. Murano -- Timbuk-2 Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: floorkasp Post Reply
11/23/2016, 12:36:09

Have you ever done any lampworking? I have, and can see which types take skill and which do not. Perhaps that explains why my perspective is different.
I would be interested to see which Venetian beads you consider to be so exceptional. The vast majority of trade beads they made do not require a lot of skill. Basic millefiori beads, trailed beads, dotted beads, etc.
Throughout history, there have been some exceptional Venetian lampwork artists for sure. However, the bulk of the lampwork beads in both Venice and Gablonz have been made by craftspeople who made production beads of similar quality.



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Rare Green Chevron Bead
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Posted by: Timbuk-2 Post Reply
11/17/2016, 14:16:00

- 7-layer
- 24 mm
- "a speo"
- perfect condition
- rare!

own collection

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Besides having so many beads, how have you benefitted from collecting them?
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Posted by: Frederick II Post Reply
10/05/2016, 01:09:38



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Too much to mention
Re: Besides having so many beads, how have you benefitted from collecting them? -- Frederick II Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: floorkasp Post Reply
10/05/2016, 10:38:35

Like some others have said, collecting beads can be intertwined with so much.

For me, that is certainly true.

If I did not collect beads, I would not have all these friends all around the world.
If I did not collect beads, I would not have this amazing annual Tucson bead/friend/inspirational event
If I did not collect beads, I would not travel as much, and my travel would be less interesting
If I did not collect beads, I would not have written 4 books
If I did not collect beads, I would not have started doing beadwork which brings me great artistic opportunities
If I did not collect beads, I would not have started melting glass, which challenges me endlessly
If I did not collect beads, I would not have such an appreciation for craft and craftspeople

And the list goes on....
And yes.....there's also the great beads ;-)



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Bead repair
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Posted by: lindabd Post Reply
09/11/2016, 07:01:50

This attractive necklace is comprised of materials which (apart from the tiger eye disks) are a mystery to me. At the center is an interesting bead with a rather involved repair.
This has made me curious about repairs generally.
Care to share your favorites?
Cheers,
Linda

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Good repairs 5 & 6
Re: Bead repair -- lindabd Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Will Post Reply
09/16/2016, 07:24:36

A couple of other repaired things that I like:

1. I found this just a couple of months ago: a fifteenth century ceramic jar with twin handles from the Sankampaeng kilns near Chiang Mai in Thailand; not very interesting in itself but repaired with the neck of an older Khmer culture bronze vase (C13 or 14 probably from Lopburi); the functional jar suddenly becomes quite elegant:

2. A wooden milk container that I bought from Judy a few years ago; it comes from Southern Sudan or Northern Uganda, from Arua or Hima pastoralist tribespeople. The wood has been hollowed out to leave very thin walls that are vulnerable; cracks have been repaired with resin embedded with little squares of white metal, possibly aluminium. Again I think the repaired item is even more beautiful than the unrepaired container would have been.

All the best,

Will

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Any ideas...
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Posted by: JustMe Post Reply
08/22/2016, 10:27:58

...about this little striped bead that came on this strand of "Russian Blue" beads? You don't see the stripes on the ends of the beads.

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Re: Any ideas...
Re: Any ideas... -- JustMe Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: CoinCoin Post Reply
08/22/2016, 13:43:01

I've heard them called "Dutch chevrons" made by the a-speo process. I could be wrong. They are valued in the Africa trade at more than an equivalent sized Russian blue, but may b e from about the same period.
Scott



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Peculiar eye beads on Mali "dig beads" strand
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
04/22/2016, 08:38:09

Re: the white bead with tiny rosetta cane eyes

I remember seeing something about this particular bead somewhere... sometime... but cannot relocate the info.

The other bead in the photo appears to be an old glass ring bead with two eyes.

Anybody know anything about these? The consensus on these Mali beads is that they're circa 1400s or later?

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Jamey's remarks on these "flush eye" and a speo beads + examples from Thomas
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
04/30/2016, 15:14:09


Related link: http://beadcollector.net/cgi-bin/anyboard.cgi?fvp=/openforum/&cmd=get&cG=5353838343&zu=3535383834&v=2&gV=0&p=

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Another pic of an "a speo" mate?
Re: Peculiar eye beads on Mali "dig beads" strand -- beadiste Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
05/02/2016, 16:30:44

Another bead on this strand has an "a speo" look to it - not a wound bead, but it has a little tag of glass with a granular tip. Same odd matte "porcelain" glass as the bead with the small rosetta cane eyes and the ones in Thomas's picture from a former thread.

So these seem rather interesting, as they're definitely not the usual big "a speo" beads.

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Small Dutch A Speo Beads in Dubin
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
04/24/2016, 10:37:31

My small beads on a strand of a speo beads look as if their mate appears on the Dubin History of Beads Timeline (the revised one, October 2009) as 126a in the section for Holland 1600s-1700s.

I suppose they could also be Venetian from the 1800s.

Anybody have a bunch of these?

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Re: Small Dutch A Speo Beads in Dubin
Re: Small Dutch A Speo Beads in Dubin -- beadiste Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: richard Post Reply
04/24/2016, 14:49:03

These are found on Iroquois sites , 1610-1625,also some Spanish 1585 1630 .I think some are Venetian and some are Dutch.By this period there were enough Venetians running the glass houses in Holland that the cross over was substantial.



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Re: Small Dutch A Speo Beads in Dubin
Re: Small Dutch A Speo Beads in Dubin -- beadiste Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: richard Post Reply
04/24/2016, 14:51:58

Just as likely a lot of these were a ferazzo as a speo,



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what does 'a ferazzo' mean?
Re: Re: Small Dutch A Speo Beads in Dubin -- richard Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Stefany Post Reply
04/25/2016, 00:43:05



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The a ferrazza (or a ferraccia) method rounded ...................
Re: what does 'a ferazzo' mean? -- Stefany Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: TASART Post Reply
04/25/2016, 06:20:56

The a ferrazza (or a ferraccia) method rounded the ends of beads by placing them in a copper pan held over a heat source............


and more:
Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
06/16/2008, 14:44:35
Hi Thomas,
The a speo method is different and separate from hot-tumbling. A speo beads are finished one-at-a-time (or, at best, a few at a time). Tumbled beads are finished en masse—that is thousands (or millions) at a time. These are two different methods to get a similar-looking result. The primary difference is that a speo beads tend to be larger (too large to tumble using the equipment of the time); whereas tumbled beads are generally small (too small and numerous to treat one-at-a-time).

To be really precise, what we now call "hot-tumbling" is only a late variation for a previous technique that the Venetians called "a ferrazza" ("in a pan"). Before a huge barrel-like apparatus was developed for tumbling, that was mechanically turned on an axis (to TUMBLE the beads in a furnace), the device was a pan (that looked something like a big frying pan), in which the beads were stirred. So in earlier times (before the 20th C.), NO beads were "tumbled" (exactly); they were stirred.

In any event, it is a mistake to say 'a speo—sometimes called tumbling.' It is stirred beads that have mistakenly been called tumbled beads. Stirred/tumbled beads should not be confused with a speo beads—because they are very different processes.

All of this is discussed in detail in the article I produced for Beads about a year ago.

Jamey



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a little more on: a ferrazza
Re: The a ferrazza (or a ferraccia) method rounded ................... -- TASART Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: TASART Post Reply
04/25/2016, 06:30:54

THE BEADS OF ST. CATHERINES ISLAND

ANTHROPOLOGICAL PAPERS OF
THE AMERICAN MUSEUM OF NATURAL HISTORY

Number 89, 312 pages, 35 figures, 12 plates, 7 tables
Issued April 1, 2009
Copyright © American Museum of Natural History 2009
ISBN 0065-9452

Here is an exerpt: The products of the Margariteri and of the
Paternostri guilds differ in several important
respects, the first being the gross size of the
beads. The Margariteri produced chiefly seed
beads, and while there is some overlap in sizes,
the Paternostri generally made larger beads. The
chief difference between the two guilds was
how the beads were finished. The Margariteri
finished their beads “a ferrazza” (on an iron pan)
by stirring them over heat, while the Paternostri
finished beads “a speo” (by the spit) (Gasparetto,
1958: 186). Francis was the first to report this in
English (Sprague, 1985: 91; Francis, 1979c: 8),
but it was left to Karklins (1993) to uncover
the details.
In the a speo method, segments cut from the
drawn tube are mounted on a unique tool. This
device has a round metal base held by a wooden
handle. Six or so tines arranged evenly around
the edge of the base rise perpendicularly from the
base in the direction opposite the handle. Several
glass tube segments are placed on each tine. The
metal part of the tool and the segments are held
in the fire and rotated by hand. The segments
began to soften and assume a round bead shape.



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Several dialogues here
Re: Small Dutch A Speo Beads in Dubin -- beadiste Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
04/30/2016, 05:20:16


Related link: http://beadcollector.net/cgi-bin/anyboard.cgi?fvp=%2Fopenforum%2F&tK=speo&wT=1&yVz=yTz&aO=1&hIz=4000&hJz=3000&cmd=find&by=&xcfgfs=tK-wT-yVz-aO-hKz

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Just cause, having some fun show and tell, post yours
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Posted by: beadweyr Post Reply
03/19/2016, 14:57:32

Just playing around stringing and restring and taking pictures, thought I share, hope you like.
Share some things of yours, lets have a fun picture post weekend its been a while.

Happy beading

Wayne

These keep growing something is wrong with me

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Chevrons and Aspeo
Re: Just cause, having some fun show and tell, post yours -- beadweyr Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
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03/19/2016, 15:02:27

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Spring Cleaning (a bit early I guess)
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Posted by: mosquitobay Post Reply
03/01/2016, 08:24:58

I guess I am in the last throes of Winter, and longing for Spring to come to the Appalachian Mountains. It is so beautiful here in Spring.

Any way, over in the corner of my workshop is an old chest of drawers that has had a number of things stacked in front of it for so long that I almost forgot what was actually in it. Well I opened it up this weekend and found 60-some odd strings of mostly European glass beads from the African trade. All of them were higher-grade collector strings that I had put together 15 to 20 years ago.

I meant to post some of these on Sunday show & Tell, but got distracted. Anyway here are some of them now if anybody cares to look:

Happy collecting, Jan Skipper, Mosquitobay

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Okay maybe a couple more interesting strings...
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Posted by: mosquitobay Post Reply
03/04/2016, 07:16:27

This one is black 4-layer chevrons with an Aspeo bead in center

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