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Posted by: bsteinberg Post Reply
03/20/2013, 09:51:44

There are many types of beautiful glass beads in the world. The most widespread are probably Venetian trade beads. In my opinion, among the most exquisite glass beads are Japanese Edo Period ojime. These beads are coveted by Japanese collectors and were never made in large quantities. For these reasons, they are less known by Western collectors. Here are two groups of Edo Period glass ojime. Enjoy!

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Wow! Eye candy! Thank you!
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
03/20/2013, 09:57:45



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Posted by: will Post Reply
03/20/2013, 10:14:00

Lovely beads. Thanks for showing them.

What's the approximate date for these? Early C19? It's interesting that the Chinese did not seem to have this technology at that time.

Best regards,

Will



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Mhmmmmm,m... What a nice surprise to see, Thanks.
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Posted by: jake@nomaddesign Post Reply
03/20/2013, 10:42:04



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Thank you very much for the beautiful images of the rare beads
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Posted by: lopacki Post Reply
03/20/2013, 10:52:38



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Lovely beads! Thanks for sharing
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Posted by: sandrowjw Post Reply
03/20/2013, 19:21:05



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They continue to be produced!
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Posted by: tofsla Post Reply
03/20/2013, 19:26:32

if you visit National Art Museum in Ueno Koen, there is shop downstairs that sells modern time Glass Ojime beads from various artist. Prices are about 10,000-20,000 (ichi man - ni man) per piece, but they are wonderful! Unfortunately my modern and old Ojime collection is in storage, so I have nothing to post, but if you visit shop (its MUSEUM SHOP) you will not be disapointed!



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Second picture, blue bead on left
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
03/20/2013, 19:46:04

reminded me of this bead on what's probably a necklace from the 1920s-1930s.

Perhaps this red bead is Japanese?

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Posted by: Shinji Post Reply
03/20/2013, 22:38:32

Hi

Thank you for your post about Japanese beads.
Please give me a chance to say my opinion little bit about it.

I think your beads in 1st picture and your beads in 2nd picure were made in deffernt Period in Japan.

Beads in 2nd picure were made in Edo Period .
Maybe arround middle 19th I think.

But almost of beads in 1st picure were made after Meiji Period I think.
Maybe from late 19th to eally 20th.

And Maybe beads in 1st picure were not made for OJIME.
Please check the size of thier holles.
Normally OJIME beads made in Edo Period have a large enough holls for strands.
But beads made after Meiji not for OJIME have small holles.
And their body size are from miniature size to normal size.

I think 1st picture here from my collection are same type as your beads in 1st picture of your post.
Speaking to my beads,the smallest one (blue one) is 6mm diameter and the center bead is 16mm diameter.
Even the holl of center bead is not enough for OJIME.


And 2nd picture here is from History of beads(2nd edition).
Please check P234 and P235.

I believe that your beads in 1st picture of your post and my beads in 1st picture here and the strand in middle of 2nd picture(from History of beads) here are same type of beads. (the strand in most inside looks older made in Japan.)

SHINJI

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Meiji
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
03/21/2013, 09:59:33

Thank you, Shinji, very interesting information and pictures.

For what purpose were the Meiji beads made?
What were the Japanese doing with them 100 years ago?
Were the beads made for export to minority Asian peoples, or for European-style jewelry, or what?

I know the Meiji period is when Japan studied Western technology, government, and finance and made itself into a world power. How such small items as beads also played their part in this history would be interesting to know.

Today we collect modern Japanese lampwork beads as works of art, yes?



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History of Beads, page 179
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
03/21/2013, 12:44:55

"Following Admiral Perry's arrival in 1853, traffic in glass beads expanded as part of a general increase in Japanese export manufacturing. By the 1870s, Japanese beadmakers were traveling to Austria, Italy, and India to learn modern manufacturing techniques."



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Posted by: Shinji Post Reply
03/21/2013, 23:51:09

Hi
Meiji(or later) beads I posted are suposed to be for Necklase.
Because those beads are gradation size (beads in History of beads are same).
The style remind me the style of Necklase in Europe from late 19th to eally 20th.
And thier holes are not enough for previous demands like OJIME or KANZASHI or...

Before Edo we Japanese didn't have a culture wearing Necklace except Ainu people in Hokkaidou.
Ainu Necklace always include Edo glass beads, but thier holes are not small like Meiji(or later) beads.

Accually I don't know
What were the Japanese doing with them 100 years ago? Were the beads made for export to minority Asian peoples, or for European-style jewelry, or what?

I can only say, even in Japan It's very very very hard to find that kind of glass beads now.

After Meiji Japanese fashion was Westernized.
So some Japanese may have tried to wear that kind of Necklace,but not so many I think.
From late 19th to eally 20th Japan tried to export so many crafts like ceramics and glass wears to Azian counties.
I think that kind of glass beads are also made for mainly export.



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That makes sense
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
03/22/2013, 09:53:41

Thank you. Beads do seem to fly under the radar and go unnoticed by historians, don't they?

Venetian millefiori beads manufactured in the 1900s-1930s were so totally forgotten that when they began to appear in U.S. markets in the 1970s, people conveniently imagined they were hundred of years old.



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Shinji - your opinion would be appreciated
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Posted by: beadweyr Post Reply
03/21/2013, 10:33:49

Hi Shinji


I have had these for many years and know very little about them.

Any information you can share would be greatly appreciated.


Wayne

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Posted by: Shinji Post Reply
03/21/2013, 23:55:13

Hi Wayne

How about the size of your beads and the size of thier holes.



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Posted by: Shinji Post Reply
03/22/2013, 00:45:28

I think your 2 beads are Japanese but not Edo beads.
They are same type of beads in 1st picture bsteinberg posted.
Decolations around thier holes are simplified compared to Edo beads.
And total atmosphere looks younger.
And that kind of inlay was not found in Edo beads.
You can find same kind of inlay of your beads in beads of 1st picture bsteinberg posted.
This is my idea, I'm not 100% sure.

SHINJI



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Thank you
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03/22/2013, 10:01:21



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Re: Japanese glass beads- some of my own examples
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Posted by: Stefany Post Reply
03/23/2013, 09:30:35

a happy coincidence that i'm getting much better images with my friend V. who has been at work with a better camera (hurrah!) and we just got out some japanese glass examples...

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the necklaces were found like this, and may have been made as export jewellery -
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03/23/2013, 09:32:47



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These are really nice! Would not mind some of these.
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Posted by: karavanserai Post Reply
03/23/2013, 12:14:59

martine

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My guess is right, these are Japanese glass beads.
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Posted by: freedomgood Post Reply
03/22/2013, 00:25:17

Last harvest, very tiny beads.
Also, if these beads were not been made by machine,
I should give my respect to those bead makers.
They must have good vision ability and courage in front of the lamp fire closely.
Wayne

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Matte texture
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
03/22/2013, 10:27:24

Most of these beads shown in this thread are curiously not shiny, as if their matte texture were deliberately created.

I don't know what that signifies, if anything, just an observation.



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Posted by: Beadman Post Reply
10/22/2018, 00:13:30

October 22, 2018
I just posted the following at FaceBook, where the above post from 2013 is being cited:

I should work on a Japanese glass bead timeline. As often happens, collector-information is sometimes garbled or just confused. There are significant historical events that precipitated and affected the manufacture of glass beads in Japan. The first is that Western Asian (and Indian or Indian-inspired) glass beads were traded into Japan, and found to be desirable (in antiquity).

Lampworked beads were instigated by Venetian beads—and the early products do resemble Venetian products. But there was also cross-pollination—because there is a class of Venetian beads that clearly attempt to imitate the refined sensibility of the best Japanese beads. But, in any event, the Japanese developed their own idiom of bead styles. It is not always clear how to realistically distinguish between Edo and Meiji products, and those later beads inspired by them, and resembling them, but made primarily for export. The export beads, of course, are from later times. Likewise, the determination that some of these beads "are ojime" is probably mistaken in many instances.

In the early 20th C., Japanese manufacturers opened factories in China—and thus instigated the lampworking industry in Boshan. (However, there is also the possibility that the local German influence made a mark on Chinese glassworking as well.) I think it is reasonable to suggest that the Boshan glassworks were exploited to mass-produce "Japanese style" beads, primarily for export to trading partners—as opposed to the glass beads they made for themselves—the output of which was limited and expensive. In-part, the limited receipt of Japanese beads (for instance, by the Ainu) probably inspired having beads manufactured elsewhere. Boshan beads likewise quickly evolved away from Japanese styles, and emerged as recognizable Chinese beads. A view of the quite variable beads made at Boshan (collected by Elizabeth Harris, and given to The Bead Museum) is eye-opening.

Later in the 20th C., Japanese industries adapted Czech and/or Indian procedures and made similar beads. (The Indian beads were probably likewise instigated by Czech practices. How these transfers were accomplished is not precisely known.) The Cherry Brand beads are one example of Japanese beadmakers creating a Czech-like line of beads. Here is a decent online article on Japanese glass working: http://asianartnewspaper.com/the-beauty-of-japanese-glass/

Jamey


Related link: http://asianartnewspaper.com/the-beauty-of-japanese-glass/
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